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Soarer · Post by **Soarer** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:14 pm

And besides the stepped arpeggiator, if the powerful analog sound can be further improved that will be my top request for Diva 2

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:52 am

Soarer wrote:And besides the stepped arpeggiator, if the powerful analog sound can be further improved that will be my top request for Diva 2

I still think Diva sounds extremely close to our reference hardware. We'll certainly do faster envelopes and wider cutoff ranges, probably in form of options.

After all we are talking about vintage analogue hardware. The difference of maximum Attack in our two Pro-Ones is something like 10 seconds vs. almost 2 minutes.

I'm slowly moving my stance on such emulations from "accuracy" to "interpretation", like we did in the Uhbie filter or the "driven" preset in Repro's filter models. I think that, given there is no "perfect" specimen of any brand of synth, I'd rather do one that sounds best within the boundaries of the underlying model. Doesn't mean it should sound "off", just means it should sound "cooked to perfection". If the result is a better sounding synth, then f accuracy.

Soarer · Post by **Soarer** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:18 am

Sounds good to me

nilhartman · Post by **nilhartman** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:59 am

Urs wrote:I'm slowly moving my stance on such emulations from "accuracy" to "interpretation", like we did in the Uhbie filter or the "driven" preset in Repro's filter models. I think that, given there is no "perfect" specimen of any brand of synth, I'd rather do one that sounds best within the boundaries of the underlying model. Doesn't mean it should sound "off", just means it should sound "cooked to perfection". If the result is a better sounding synth, then f accuracy.

I for one would love to see Diva evolving into something even more unique, flexible.. and Iconoclast. I absolutely love her sound-palette and versatility, and treat her as a lovely semi-modular, that's her biggest strength IMHO. i.e. Something similar to Zebra's Perform page would be fantastic, both for sound-design and performance (would be an incredible addition to Bazille as well).

Sleepwalker · Post by **Sleepwalker** » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:12 pm

Soarer wrote:Sounds good to me

A BIG +1

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:15 am

What about a MKS-70/JX8P/JX10P? I know you guys said you can't do a PCM synth, but those big analog synths might be something you guys could model.

Or the JX-3P. That was a sibling to the Juno with two DCO's, though it had the same filters and envelopes. Maybe it wouldn't be as difficult for you guys

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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:59 am

Shiek927 wrote:Maybe it wouldn't be as difficult for you guys .

I'd prefer something difficult.

To be honest, I don't see the benefit of more Roland analogue polysynths for emulations. The differences in sound are not overly big, they all share a common feature set and philosophy with either one or two oscillators. So I'd much rather go for different oscillator layouts and filter topologies. Stuff that brings something new to the table. Maybe a Buchla-inspired dual oscillator and a diode filter.

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:09 am

Urs wrote: If the result is a better sounding synth, then f accuracy.

*BOOM* Words of wisdom !

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 7:20 am

Yeah, f accuracy, gimme polyphony

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:31 am

My request for Diva 2 would be don't make Diva 2 but rather keep creating bespoke individual models such as Repro 1/5

I'd happily pay for that.

Add stuff to Diva, sure.....but it really doesn't need a follow up plugin.

rosschehayeb · Post by **rosschehayeb** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:31 pm

I don't understand people's complaints about Diva not being bright enough. I don't think I've ever written a patch where I had the filter opened all the way up. If I need Diva to sound brighter, I open the filter more. It's plenty bright that way. Are a lot of you writing patches where you like the filter to be all the way opened, and it's still not bright enough for you?

stardustmedia · Post by **stardustmedia** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:56 pm

rosschehayeb wrote:I don't understand people's complaints about Diva not being bright enough. I don't think I've ever written a patch where I had the filter opened all the way up. If I need Diva to sound brighter, I open the filter more. It's plenty bright that way. Are a lot of you writing patches where you like the filter to be all the way opened, and it's still not bright enough for you?

I think the same. But if I compare to presets in Massive or Sylenth to Diva, they "scream" like hell (which I usually don't like and I have to turn them down). On the other hand, Diva is not my first choice when going for screaming loud aggressive leads.

I guess this is just a matter of taste.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:45 pm

rosschehayeb wrote:I don't understand people's complaints about Diva not being bright enough. I don't think I've ever written a patch where I had the filter opened all the way up. If I need Diva to sound brighter, I open the filter more. It's plenty bright that way. Are a lot of you writing patches where you like the filter to be all the way opened, and it's still not bright enough for you?

I think its the other way round. Some ppl thought it was too bright...

brick · Post by **brick** » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:09 pm

Urs wrote:
Shiek927 wrote:Maybe it wouldn't be as difficult for you guys .
I'd prefer something difficult.

To be honest, I don't see the benefit of more Roland analogue polysynths for emulations. The differences in sound are not overly big, they all share a common feature set and philosophy with either one or two oscillators. So I'd much rather go for different oscillator layouts and filter topologies. Stuff that brings something new to the table. Maybe a Buchla-inspired dual oscillator and a diode filter.

How about something like the Steiner Parker Synthacon filter ?

One of the most chaotic , complex & raw sounding filters out there . Never heard anything close in software . If anyone could do it , U-he could.....

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:58 am

brick wrote:How about something like the Steiner Parker Synthacon filter ?

I've indeed been toying with a model of this. I would at one point need to have access to an original unit to verify that it's captured, I'm not sure a FrequenSteiner or a Minibrute will be sufficient.

Anyhow, there's another similar filter which I might go for, but it's a novel design. Probably more so for Zebra than for Diva.

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