Across the spectrum of end-users? Unpossible.wagtunes wrote:So then how does one determine the weight of each factor or is that an impossibility?
And it'll vary from one synth to another anyway.
Across the spectrum of end-users? Unpossible.wagtunes wrote:So then how does one determine the weight of each factor or is that an impossibility?
So then how does one go about analyzing results to determine what went "wrong" so that the next attempt is more successful? Or is this all literally just a crap shoot?whyterabbyt wrote:Across the spectrum of end-users? Unpossible.wagtunes wrote:So then how does one determine the weight of each factor or is that an impossibility?
And it'll vary from one synth to another anyway.
Given that you as a sound set seller only have certain limited types of data, it's impossible. You'd need more data, much of it qualitative, like "what genres do you produce most with X synth?"wagtunes wrote:So then how does one determine the weight of each factor or is that an impossibility?whyterabbyt wrote:Its not a single 'this', its a list of them, and yes, they all apply to every synth out there; differently. They all apply differently to all synths out there.wagtunes wrote: All possible. But doesn't this apply to every synth out there?
Thats my point; you were trying to present it as a function of one single variable. And you're still trying to do so despite having been told authoritively that the sales of Hive are better than you're claiming they 'should' be.Yes, there are many different variables
When your theory is at odds with the facts, its time to revisit the theory.
No; you're basically claiming that the contribution of the single factor you have focussed on is more important than the sum of the contributions of all the others. However that's an unwarranted assumption.but having a sample size of 45 different libraries (not a small size) and seeing drastic reduction of numbers between Hive and every other library, isn't the likelihood of all those variables going against me very small?
Like I say, Urs has stated that the logical conclusion of your theory does not fit the actual facts. So your theory is wrong, and that is almost certainly because other factors that you are trivialising or ignoring are more important than you acknowledge.
When I first saw Hive as a screenshot I thought it has the best GUI of all u-He synths. I like the hexagon very much and the colors as well. To me the blue implies technology and a clean sound. It is modern and not cluttered. I can understand the u-He customer base doesn't like it that much. They probably got used to the "oldfashioned" hardware 3d style. I can tell you some of my friends discoverd u-He just because of Hive.Dasheesh wrote:Hive needs a better GUI as well. I like the set up, I really do, it's the color scheme that needs an update IMO.
Well, how does one go about analyzing results to determine what went 'wrong' when the only datum you have is 'total sales' in the first place?wagtunes wrote:So then how does one go about analyzing results to determine what went "wrong" so that the next attempt is more successful?
Unless you're actually acquiring more information than sales figures, yes it absolutely is.Or is this all literally just a crap shoot?
Exactly.nineofkings wrote:You'd need more data, much of it qualitative, like "what genres do you produce most with X synth?"
you ask a question and answer it with an assumption, I think other designers like all companies do best when they listen to their potential customers and current customers. That kind of requires more listening than talking and you might be shooting yourself in the foot in some of these threads. TBH when I read your posts I expected more from your words but as I listen to your samples I'm underwhelmed.wagtunes wrote:So then what do other sound designers do?
They just take a guess?
Not a very scientific way to run a business.
DPhil wrote:When I first saw Hive as a screenshot I thought it has the best GUI of all u-He synths. I like the hexagon very much and the colors as well. To me the blue implies technology and a clean sound. It is modern and not cluttered. I can understand the u-He customer base doesn't like it that much. They probably got used to the "oldfashioned" hardware 3d style. I can tell you some of my friends discoverd u-He just because of Hive.Dasheesh wrote:Hive needs a better GUI as well. I like the set up, I really do, it's the color scheme that needs an update IMO.
I don't want to hurt your feelings, but your presets just don't seem professional enough. I would not put them on my site if I were U-he. People here don't talk about them because they are not really worth talking about. Several people have tried to tell you repeatedly and usually in rather friendly and subtle ways.wagtunes wrote:There is one other thing that, with the exception of Hive, all my worst selling libraries have in common.
They are hardly ever discussed here. Trying to find threads on those synths is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
So there is no question that popularity does come into play, which again, is why my Hive sales are so surprising. I figured if it's a U-he synth, it'll sell.
Obviously, in that regard, I was wrong.
Thanks for the feedback. But isn't "better" sounding a subjective thing? I mean look at all the threads we have comparing two synths with half the people saying synth A sounds better than synth B and even going as far as saying synth B sounds "bad."Hink wrote:you ask a question and answer it with an assumption, I think other designers like all companies do best when they listen to their potential customers and current customers. That kind of requires more listening than talking and you might be shooting yourself in the foot in some of these threads. TBH when I read your posts I expected more from your words but as I listen to your samples I'm underwhelmed.wagtunes wrote:So then what do other sound designers do?
They just take a guess?
Not a very scientific way to run a business.
It's a fine line, if you build yourself up too high you better be able to deliver ten fold or it might be disappointing. It can be quite relative on several levels and you're in a very competitive business. In this case, no offense intended, based on your demo and even at the introductory price I would rather buy one of the other sets on the u-he site that sell for 1-10 dollars more than your package. Better presentation all around and imo better sounding.
There was just nothing on your demos that made say I even wanted to pay the 15 dollars, nothing grabbed me. Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth
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