Phrase Editor, Number of notes
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tigerintheboat tigerintheboat https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=388885
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- 81 posts since 21 Nov, 2016
If I drag a phrase over to a track, and then look at the phrase in the track, it may show 3 notes stacked up as a chord, for example. But if I double click on the phrase, it may show many more notes.
For example, PianoFunk20 in extra phrases shows chords of 3 notes on the track. When I go inside, there are 7 (seven) notes, some darker blue and some lighter blue. For example, with a II minor. it shows the three notes of the minor chord, and then the 3 note minor chord is repeated an octave up, and then the root note is repeated again in the next octave.
I am pretty sure it is only playing a three note chord. When I export the track, there are only 3 notes in the midi export on the track. So what are these other notes? Is there a control telling the program which notes to play?
Glenn
For example, PianoFunk20 in extra phrases shows chords of 3 notes on the track. When I go inside, there are 7 (seven) notes, some darker blue and some lighter blue. For example, with a II minor. it shows the three notes of the minor chord, and then the 3 note minor chord is repeated an octave up, and then the root note is repeated again in the next octave.
I am pretty sure it is only playing a three note chord. When I export the track, there are only 3 notes in the midi export on the track. So what are these other notes? Is there a control telling the program which notes to play?
Glenn
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tigerintheboat tigerintheboat https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=388885
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- 81 posts since 21 Nov, 2016
Yellukhan,
I understand some of that and not others.
(1) When I click on the chord I get a different suggestion menu....you are getting a "quick suggestion" menu that you can move. I get a Chord Suggestions menu that sits on top of the bar I would like to see. I don't see any way to move it.
(2) But I can right click on the chord number and get the other menu, which shows by Scale Degrees, List or Palette. I understand that changing the type of chord changing the number of notes required...like a major needs three notes, and a dominant four. I understand that.
(3) Then I see you select all the notes and go into the note dialog, and I see the check box for "non-existent chord notes", that you can just ignore them. But I don't understand why the extra notes are there in the first place???? Are they just in there, in case they are needed, like for a more complicated chord with more notes?
(4) Also, I see you go past and possibly click the "Mirror Selection Vertically" when you have all the notes selected. I don't understand what you are doing. What does it do to Mirror Selection Vertically?
I must understand this stuff to use the program, so any help is appreciated.
Glenn
I understand some of that and not others.
(1) When I click on the chord I get a different suggestion menu....you are getting a "quick suggestion" menu that you can move. I get a Chord Suggestions menu that sits on top of the bar I would like to see. I don't see any way to move it.
(2) But I can right click on the chord number and get the other menu, which shows by Scale Degrees, List or Palette. I understand that changing the type of chord changing the number of notes required...like a major needs three notes, and a dominant four. I understand that.
(3) Then I see you select all the notes and go into the note dialog, and I see the check box for "non-existent chord notes", that you can just ignore them. But I don't understand why the extra notes are there in the first place???? Are they just in there, in case they are needed, like for a more complicated chord with more notes?
(4) Also, I see you go past and possibly click the "Mirror Selection Vertically" when you have all the notes selected. I don't understand what you are doing. What does it do to Mirror Selection Vertically?
I must understand this stuff to use the program, so any help is appreciated.
Glenn
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musicdevelopments musicdevelopments https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=223336
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- 5435 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
Hi Glenn,tigerintheboat wrote:(1) When I click on the chord I get a different suggestion menu....you are getting a "quick suggestion" menu that you can move.
yellukhan is using the v3.3 beta version which is more advanced in terms of chord selection. If you'd like, I will gladly send you the links for the beta version.
Yes, exactly!tigerintheboat wrote:(2) But I can right click on the chord number and get the other menu, which shows by Scale Degrees, List or Palette. I understand that changing the type of chord changing the number of notes required...like a major needs three notes, and a dominant four. I understand that.
That is right, they are used only for more complicated chords. E.g. you can use the Chord Generator with an acoustic guitar chord which has 6 notes. In that case all 6 notes are used. For simpler chord less notes are used. There is an option not to ignore a note, e.g. when the chord has no 7th note, the bottom note+1 octave is used, e.g. for C4, E4, G4, the "4th" chord note will be C5, the "5th" will be E5, etc.tigerintheboat wrote:(3) Then I see you select all the notes and go into the note dialog, and I see the check box for "non-existent chord notes", that you can just ignore them. But I don't understand why the extra notes are there in the first place???? Are they just in there, in case they are needed, like for a more complicated chord with more notes?
Thanks,
Attila
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tigerintheboat tigerintheboat https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=388885
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- 81 posts since 21 Nov, 2016
Thanks; I will hold off on the beta; I have enough confusion! Is there a brief explanation somewhere about the Mirror Notes Vertically....do I need to understand this right now to create phrases?
Glenn
Glenn
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For the "ignore non existent chord note" option, what is the name of the setting for that color? I think I want mine to be grayed when I open the phrase editors.
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musicdevelopments musicdevelopments https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=223336
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- 5435 posts since 9 Jan, 2010
The color of those notes are made from the normal colors by decreasing the saturation. So these colors cannot be set individually. I tried to find a better saturation value today, I hope the colors are better now, though I am not sure. You should still see the original note color of these notes.
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