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whyterabbyt
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24885 posts since 3 Sep, 2001, from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Postby whyterabbyt; Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:45 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Atcrank wrote:Is there any way to get output from the dock by itself? Like, if I want to just pass through inputs and jam without firing up the workstation ? Would I be any better off with a different brand of ADAT dock (Saffire etc) with no-latency monitoring analog outs? Or is this a weird requirement that no one makes hardware for? :)


Nope, the EMU cant do this. Not many audio interfaces can, in fact, and Im pretty sure its got anything to do with whether or not it has no-latency monitoring. Most of the devices Im aware of that do passthrough like that arent actually soundcards but standalone ADC/DAC boxes that get hooked up to a soundcard via ADAT or whatever.
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Atcrank
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Postby Atcrank; Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:16 pm Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Thanks folks. Even with the pc on, but running Linux (no drivers for PCIe 1010m) it will not work. I really liked the balanced outputs for my monitors and the mic preamp would let me do a bit too. But I might go look for a used rack mixer with ADAT out.
gilirose
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Postby gilirose; Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:45 pm Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

This may help some, and maybe an answer for me:

I have an ongoing situation with my 1820 dock.
It has been giving me hell on Windows 7, and I will NOT swap it for a newer card
because it makes no financial sense for me.

Both Windows and the 1820 are set at 48khz audio rate.
I am using the beta drivers as posted all over the web.
All other Audio drivers are DISABLED.

Upon boot-up, I get a little splash screen telling me I am missing some hardware,
apparently the dock is not recognized well.
Every few seconds the operating system hangs as a loud static fart is emitted
at the docks output.
On the Patch Mix window - Dock outputs flicker on and off.

After many attempts, including creating a "No Channel/ No Strip" setup,
Hot-plugging the dock (not recommended!!!) and using other drivers,
my conclusion was that it is a driver conflict of sorts.

My solution:
Under the "Creative Professional > E-MU PatchMix DSP" item of the Windows START menu,
There is an "Restore Defaults" item.
I have to use this after each PC power up, and it then does an automated Restart.
Apparently - this solves the issue.

My Problem:
The 1820 will only play nice with certain software - DAWs and Plugins.
Trial installations of Cubase or Abelton mess up something with the drivers to no avail.
So I stick to Reaper and whatever Plugins that seem to be stable.

And I can still make great music that I enjoy.
Mutant
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3139 posts since 9 Oct, 2004, from Poland

Postby Mutant; Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:46 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Gilirose maybe try using Process Hacker to find out to which files your PC writes after you click the restore defaults, then make these files read only.
http://processhacker.sourceforge.net/

*Just an idea, i don't have the same card.
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Dominus
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Postby Dominus; Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:35 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

gilirose wrote:
I have an ongoing situation with my 1820 dock.
It has been giving me hell on Windows 7, and I will NOT swap it for a newer card
because it makes no financial sense for me.


How much time do you spend on making it work?

Time = Money.

You'd probably be able to sell that card for *something* and then get something newer that will work all the time.
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fraz
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170 posts since 23 Mar, 2005

Postby fraz; Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:58 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Hello,

I know this is an old thread but I've just bought an Emu or two second hand - I've installed on two machines to test out a little. One is a Vista machine with 32 bit Ultimate 2.2 driver [i think] with patchmix 2.1 / 2.2 -

I've also installed onto a Windows 10 x64 machine with 2.3 beta driver - maybe a later beta [not sure] - I'm not sure where I can view the drivers apart from the un-install programs list.

The ASIO is working OK from what I've seen so far - just a little audio clip recorded - Sample rate is 44.1 Khz - But the wdm drivers are no where to be seen in FL Studio 12 - I'm not complaining this is a test to see what does and what doesn't work. Some people have got Windows 10 working just fine with everything.

Another thing I was confused with - Is there a separate download for x64 and x86 patchmix - Or are the installes both x32 and x64?

What is the difference between patchmix app 2.1 and patchmix app 2.2 ?

I wouldn't use x64 in home studio for EMU as I'd use Vienna Ensemble Pro to access a machine on LAN that is 64 bit!!!

Any pointers on the WDM driver welcome but like mentioned it's a test so I'm more than happy this 1820M is "working" or seems to be but it's there is lots to test.

I did see an EMU e-dsp driver [is in audio settings] is this WDM? - or something for the fx? - Thanks
Mutant
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3139 posts since 9 Oct, 2004, from Poland

Postby Mutant; Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:57 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

fraz wrote:I did see an EMU e-dsp driver [is in audio settings] is this WDM? - or something for the fx? - Thanks

In my Win7 audio settings, the name is "E-MU E-DSP".
And yes it seems to be WDM, because in Properties/Properties/Details it also says "E-MU E-DSP Audio Processor (WDM)".
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fraz
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Postby fraz; Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:52 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

OK it is WDM then - that has appeared in FL Studio - But nothing plays back - I'll try again - But is it definite that e-dsp [wdm] won't work - or is there a way to tinker this?
fraz
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Postby fraz; Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:24 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

But ASIO is the main one - Is it generally that windows 10 x64 struggles with WDM but Windows 10 x86 does not? - or is it Windows 10 both x86 & x64?
Mutant
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Postby Mutant; Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:45 pm Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Page 8 has some Win10 info.
Sorry, i can't help you with that W version.
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fraz
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170 posts since 23 Mar, 2005

Postby fraz; Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:20 pm Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Mutant wrote:Page 8 has some Win10 info.
Sorry, i can't help you with that W version.


That's OK - It's just a test - Others have commented on Windows 10 and WDM not working - I'll read page 8 to see if there are more clues.

I'm also trying it out on a Windows 7 64 bit - So still x64 but minus Windows 10 ! - Then WDM should work as well - :hihi: - Unless it's an issue with x64 but I don't think it is.

ASIO is the main driver for DAW's - Of course playing off Youtube or something would require wave drivers.

When I get using EMU properly it'll be on a 32 bit system but I feel good that Windows 10 ASIO seems to work very well but it's not been used extensively but it was looking good!
fraz
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170 posts since 23 Mar, 2005

Postby fraz; Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:44 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

OK the wave drivers work on Windows 7 x64 playing back from Youtube - I suspect Windows 10 would have done this as well but I'll try that another day.

What did get f****d up was trying to use wave drivers in Orion 8 [Synapse-Audio] wave mme really messed it all up!! and crashed Orion. Didn't test any other DAW -

Direct sound didn't do much better - this was for playback of VSTi but ASIO is king for DAW !!!

So it's just working out in little bits - what a hassle - But it looks good
fraz
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Postby fraz; Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:35 am Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

OK back to Windows 10 - I'm pretty sure the wave driver does not work 2.3 beta - Windows 7 x64 I could switch between two sources on the fly a TV [Intel HD audio] and EMU-e-DSP [speakers] - Another option would be to try Windows 10 x86 but I don't have a machine with this on!

But at least the ASIO works on Windows 10 x64 !!! - Windows 7 x64 [both ASIO&WAVE works]

If anyone has any tips to get Windows 10 wave drivers to work with EMU 1820M / EMU 1212M - Please mention them.

This isn't mission critical but it is good to ascertain what will what won't work then draw a line underneath it!
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Postby Debutante; Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:47 pm Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

fraz wrote:OK back to Windows 10 - I'm pretty sure the wave driver does not work 2.3 beta - Windows 7 x64 I could switch between two sources on the fly a TV [Intel HD audio] and EMU-e-DSP [speakers] - Another option would be to try Windows 10 x86 but I don't have a machine with this on!

But at least the ASIO works on Windows 10 x64 !!! - Windows 7 x64 [both ASIO&WAVE works]

If anyone has any tips to get Windows 10 wave drivers to work with EMU 1820M / EMU 1212M - Please mention them.

This isn't mission critical but it is good to ascertain what will what won't work then draw a line underneath it!



might I add PCIe to that? I know some people are still using the old PCI, but I might be moving to Windows 10 and wonder what others have done with the PCIe version???
HM
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Postby HM; Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:01 pm Re: EMU 1212m/1616m on Windows 7 - The Thread to End All Other EMU Threads!

Quick question, I got 1212m and 1818m,...

Can I install them on latest W10-64 ,.. just to have the mixer-functionality, using as AD/DA only, light-pibed from my RME-card ?

In case possible what software and procedure should I go for to make it work ?

Thanks in advance for any help, I would be happy to use these converters, they are still on top !!!
HM
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