Right back at you with your comment then..it's not nothing new, that's not true.Lets dance wrote:not all of them sounds the same, that's not truespacekid wrote: I say 'for soft synths that all sound the same, there are a lot of threads..nothing new' but that's why I would rather have samples...to each his own.
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- KVRian
- 1013 posts since 12 Sep, 2005
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Okay, you say that all soft synths sound the same.spacekid wrote:Right back at you with your comment then..it's not nothing new, that's not true.Lets dance wrote:not all of them sounds the same, that's not truespacekid wrote: I say 'for soft synths that all sound the same, there are a lot of threads..nothing new' but that's why I would rather have samples...to each his own.
Please tell me how this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... torycyclop
Sounds like this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... 50-samples
If they sound the same to you, I suggest you have your hearing checked.
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- KVRAF
- 5716 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
It's baffling but they haven't implemented it in the SampleTank engine after more than a decade of people asking "why hasn't it got aftertouch?" so I guess it's never going to happen.Saukar30 wrote:1 thing that always gets me about IK is the implementation of aftertouch. In ST3 I tried to raise a stink about it, but I guess it was a nonissue. Seeing how Syntronik is marketed as a synth (ish)... I really feel they need to take the time to implement aftertouch as a control somewhere in ST3, Syntronik or both.
I've taken the approach of mapping it to something like CC11 either in the controller (a Linnstrument) or a MIDI converter tool in the DAW. That's OK in Cubase and Logic, but it's a royal PITA in Live because most of the M4L gadgets for mapping controllers assume you will map directly to a parameter in the plugin and not convert to a MIDI CC.
But, that's where you run into the second catch: IK only makes macros available for mapping. They are selected by the sound designer and often aren't set up for useful real-time playing control but more for mixing. So, half the time, you can't map to the filter or the LFO rate or LFO->Filter knob because it's not available.
- KVRian
- 1013 posts since 12 Sep, 2005
Too much for me to ask that my point is that you can't say all samples or synths sound the same..so I say 'right back at you with your comment' ..I guess it went over your head. I prefer samples than that mush, just like you prefer mush to samples..to each his own, as I said. derailers.wagtunes wrote:Okay, you say that all soft synths sound the same.spacekid wrote:Right back at you with your comment then..it's not nothing new, that's not true.Lets dance wrote:not all of them sounds the same, that's not truespacekid wrote: I say 'for soft synths that all sound the same, there are a lot of threads..nothing new' but that's why I would rather have samples...to each his own.
Please tell me how this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... torycyclop
Sounds like this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... 50-samples
If they sound the same to you, I suggest you have your hearing checked.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Guess what? The 2nd example WAS samples. LMAO.spacekid wrote:Too much for me to ask that my point is that you can't say all samples or synths sound the same..so I say 'right back at you with your comment' ..I guess it went over your head. I prefer samples than that mush, just like you prefer mush to samples..to each his own, as I said. derailers.wagtunes wrote:Okay, you say that all soft synths sound the same.spacekid wrote:Right back at you with your comment then..it's not nothing new, that's not true.Lets dance wrote:not all of them sounds the same, that's not truespacekid wrote: I say 'for soft synths that all sound the same, there are a lot of threads..nothing new' but that's why I would rather have samples...to each his own.
Please tell me how this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... torycyclop
Sounds like this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... 50-samples
If they sound the same to you, I suggest you have your hearing checked.
That's right. Samples played back via a granular sound engine that simply manipulates and start and end points of the sample in real time. And YOU couldn't tell.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
This is priceless.
- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 11 Jan, 2006 from Pittsburgh
I haven't finished downloading everything, much less installed anything, but the images in the Sampletank manual don't show the new parameters. Maybe IK used older images by mistake? I'm not seeing any difference from the previous manual.Elektronisch wrote:You can select, when you go to edit page, there are Sample 1 and 2Burillo wrote:SampleTank does not provide all the features present in Syntronik GUI, like the ability to switch between 1- and 2-OSC mode
- KVRist
- 479 posts since 13 May, 2012 from Minnesota
I installed and authorized but I'm having an issue with downloading the library content. For example the syn 99 is a two part download and the first part was zipped and I unpacked it where I wanted it and all is well. The second part is syn_99_Part_2.dmg and is not zipped. Where is that folder supposed to go? I'm assuming with the first Syn99 but how do they merge? I didn't see anything in the manual or installation instructions.
Thanks
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- KVRian
- 1013 posts since 12 Sep, 2005
Guess what, I didn't listen..this is priceless..haha..cause my online computer has no audio..wow..just wow.wagtunes wrote:Guess what? The 2nd example WAS samples. LMAO.spacekid wrote:Too much for me to ask that my point is that you can't say all samples or synths sound the same..so I say 'right back at you with your comment' ..I guess it went over your head. I prefer samples than that mush, just like you prefer mush to samples..to each his own, as I said. derailers.wagtunes wrote:Okay, you say that all soft synths sound the same.spacekid wrote:Right back at you with your comment then..it's not nothing new, that's not true.Lets dance wrote:not all of them sounds the same, that's not truespacekid wrote: I say 'for soft synths that all sound the same, there are a lot of threads..nothing new' but that's why I would rather have samples...to each his own.
Please tell me how this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... torycyclop
Sounds like this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... 50-samples
If they sound the same to you, I suggest you have your hearing checked.
That's right. Samples played back via a granular sound engine that simply manipulates and start and end points of the sample in real time. And YOU couldn't tell.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
This is priceless.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7864 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Each part should be a zip file (for Windows) - did you download the Windows version for one and the Mac version for the other? You should download the correct version for your OS and then once you unzip/uncompress the file you run the installer in each and it will put the files in the correct location.Doc Brown wrote:I installed and authorized but I'm having an issue with downloading the library content. For example the syn 99 is a two part download and the first part was zipped and I unpacked it where I wanted it and all is well. The second part is syn_99_Part_2.dmg and is not zipped. Where is that folder supposed to go? I'm assuming with the first Syn99 but how do they merge? I didn't see anything in the manual or installation instructions.
Thanks
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Then your reply to my post was just you being an asshole.wagtunes wrote:Guess what, I didn't listen..this is priceless..haha..cause my online computer has no audio..wow..just wow.spacekid wrote:Guess what? The 2nd example WAS samples. LMAO.wagtunes wrote:Too much for me to ask that my point is that you can't say all samples or synths sound the same..so I say 'right back at you with your comment' ..I guess it went over your head. I prefer samples than that mush, just like you prefer mush to samples..to each his own, as I said. derailers.spacekid wrote:Okay, you say that all soft synths sound the same.Lets dance wrote:Right back at you with your comment then..it's not nothing new, that's not true.spacekid wrote: I say 'for soft synths that all sound the same, there are a lot of threads..nothing new' but that's why I would rather have samples...to each his own.
not all of them sounds the same, that's not true
Please tell me how this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... torycyclop
Sounds like this...
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... 50-samples
If they sound the same to you, I suggest you have your hearing checked.
That's right. Samples played back via a granular sound engine that simply manipulates and start and end points of the sample in real time. And YOU couldn't tell.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
This is priceless.
Priceless.
- KVRAF
- 4433 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
wagtunes, spacekid's point was that someone said "Syntronik is not a synth therefore it all sounds the same [presumably either compared to other sample-based synths, or that individual synths in Syntronik sound like each other and there's no variety whatsoever]", to which he replied "i can say the same about synths and it would be just as valid". as in, not valid in the slightest. it was sarcasm, and it really did fly over your head. you missed important context to the discussion.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Oh, okay. Then I agree with him. Sarcasm does NOT translate well over the Internet.Burillo wrote:wagtunes, spacekid's point was that someone said "Syntronik is not a synth therefore it all sounds the same [presumably either compared to other sample-based synths, or that individual synths in Syntronik sound like each other and there's no variety whatsoever]", to which he replied "i can say the same about synths and it would be just as valid". as in, not valid in the slightest. it was sarcasm, and it really did fly over your head. you missed important context to the discussion.
My apologies.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Oh, and as far as "all samples sound the same" that's the most absurd thing I've heard in at least 10 minutes.
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- KVRAF
- 2677 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
So, is it a sample library, rompler or a synth?
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- KVRAF
- 4433 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
all three, depending on the definitionrobotmonkey wrote:So, is it a sample library, rompler or a synth?
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.