Physical modelling in 2017
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 485 posts since 23 Jan, 2004 from Oxford, England
For me Pianoteq is something of a benchmark in terms of sound and sophistication for physical modelling based instruments. I regularly use the AAS derived physical modelling instruments in Live, but they are a long way from the cutting edge and sound pretty crude compared to Pianoteq.
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
- KVRAF
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
- KVRAF
- 4816 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Modelonia is great, but needs finesse and a nice convolution reverb:
http://www.nusofting.liqihsynth.com/modelonia.html
Also this hybrid with lots of control:
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/swam_saxophones.php
And this is sort of vocal modeling:
http://wolfgangpalm.com/phonem.html
http://www.nusofting.liqihsynth.com/modelonia.html
Also this hybrid with lots of control:
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/swam_saxophones.php
And this is sort of vocal modeling:
http://wolfgangpalm.com/phonem.html
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
I still find Sculpture the best from all in general.
But of course there are better ones for some specific areas like Pianoteq, Chromaphone etc.
However i did never find any tool which could change timbres in such an "organic" and interesting way in realtime like Sculpture.
My second fav is Reaktor Prism, then Chromaphone, then maybe Pianoteq which is of course the best for piano and similar key sounds but still could not replace a thing like Keyscapes for me.
Some other interesting things are the Finger Fiddle app for iOS which has a great GUI and a good engine to emulate strings (violin, viola, cello, double bass).
I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things).
In general i really miss the next thing in terms of physical modeling. I´m still waiting for a kind of Sculpture 2.
But of course there are better ones for some specific areas like Pianoteq, Chromaphone etc.
However i did never find any tool which could change timbres in such an "organic" and interesting way in realtime like Sculpture.
My second fav is Reaktor Prism, then Chromaphone, then maybe Pianoteq which is of course the best for piano and similar key sounds but still could not replace a thing like Keyscapes for me.
Some other interesting things are the Finger Fiddle app for iOS which has a great GUI and a good engine to emulate strings (violin, viola, cello, double bass).
I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things).
In general i really miss the next thing in terms of physical modeling. I´m still waiting for a kind of Sculpture 2.
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
Kaivo is greatadydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
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- KVRian
- 716 posts since 20 Apr, 2017
Came here to post this.jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Yeah, MODO Bass really does rock. It's the only non synth bass I use anymore.jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 485 posts since 23 Jan, 2004 from Oxford, England
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!
- KVRAF
- 3187 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
Kaivo is incredible, but some patches will kick your system's ass. I have a quad 2.8 i7 and sometimes it maxes out an entire core.woggle wrote:Kaivo is greatadydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkPvmr93K8Cinebient wrote:I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2CMq-zIua4
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
So let me get this right, you get this AND Alchemy in Logic? All you are missing is true algorithmic analog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rIcWE6Nhns