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ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:29 pm

Numanoid wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:Marvelous, but, I could never fall asleep to that. There seems to be a lot of variation in what people need to fall asleep.
To quote John Lennon: How do you sleep?

Myself I get to sleep the Al Jourgensen way: "With a frozen dream and a borrowed hope that died"

Well, to be clear, I don't need any help finding music to fall asleep to. I use my own stuff, works for me

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:32 pm

ghettosynth wrote:I use my own stuff, works for me

Yeah, I guess that is an instant sleeping pill

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:41 pm

Numanoid wrote:
ghettosynth wrote:I use my own stuff, works for me
Yeah, I guess that is an instant sleeping pill

No, it is, that's what I've been working on, music that puts me to sleep. I mean, I get that you're being funny, but, it's actually true.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:42 pm

ghettosynth wrote:I get that you're being funny

Wow

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:36 am

aMUSEd wrote:Really suffering from insomnia since stopping mirtazipine. Some nights I'm just getting a couple of hours then waking up with my mind active and finding it impossible to get back to sleep even though I'm physically knackered.

been trying various relaxation/mindfulness apps but I can't stand them, I just can't listen to some dick droning on about letting go of my tension bla bla bla, but the typical sort of new agey relaxation music I just find unlistenable as well. What would you recommend? I want something that will relax me but without making me just want to turn it off.

If ASMR works for you, then watch some massage sessions in Youtube. It may sound weird, but it works for many ppl. Something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wunsbyF1XPA

someone called simon · Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:33 am

I find this great. dark, soft, enveloping. Nothing stands out, no melody, no rhythm, no chords. Could be interpreted as scary or bleak. It could like floating alone in the universe, but not in a bad way... and it shifts very slightly in tone over its 1:14 length, but basically if you listen to a minute of it, it's all like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1tG6y-MsY&t=15s

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:11 pm

someone called simon wrote:I find this great. dark, soft, enveloping. Nothing stands out, no melody, no rhythm, no chords. Could be interpreted as scary or bleak. It could like floating alone in the universe, but not in a bad way... and it shifts very slightly in tone over its 1:14 length, but basically if you listen to a minute of it, it's all like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1tG6y-MsY&t=15s

It's cool ambient, but the pad has too much low frequencies for a sleep. Low frequencies don't go well with sleeping, they tend to give tension. Mid range is the key here. That's why many meditation tunes are not heavy on lows.

Synapse2k · Post by **Synapse2k** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:28 pm

I sleep all the time and mimic myself waxing nostalgic with all of my loops because secretly i'm being blamed as rumplestiltskin because of what ruin my underachiever attitude in school caused to me.

Synapse2k · Post by **Synapse2k** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:31 pm

my underachiever attitude involved being a true somnambulist who could never keep up with bad rheumatoid so i only did what i called "creative writing" that i enjoyed. Or was it different? it was. I loved things like ad libs and choose your own adventure dudes. My music is the same thing.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:40 pm

Igro wrote:
someone called simon wrote:I find this great. dark, soft, enveloping. Nothing stands out, no melody, no rhythm, no chords. Could be interpreted as scary or bleak. It could like floating alone in the universe, but not in a bad way... and it shifts very slightly in tone over its 1:14 length, but basically if you listen to a minute of it, it's all like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1tG6y-MsY&t=15s
It's cool ambient, but the pad has too much low frequencies for a sleep. Low frequencies don't go well with sleeping, they tend to give tension. Mid range is the key here. That's why many meditation tunes are not heavy on lows.

No, I think that this is definitely personal preference. The lows are great, the low-mids, OTOH, are very distracting. I'd put a great big notch on that somewhere around 600 or 700 Hz and a nice low shelf to give those lows a bit of a boost.

My bedroom studio has a couple of small PA speakers that I use for jamming and I just added a 15" powered sub to them for some better low end. It makes a huge difference for my sleep program. I don't listen to any of it very loud, of course, but I do overemphasize the bass on the sub.

Of course, I've had more experiences than I care to count falling asleep to something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Td_CCWhIk

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:59 pm

Plastikman Consumed. I've original CD (paper one).

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:34 pm

Tone Tales from Tomorrow Too, very nice and chilling

https://www.discogs.com/Various-Tone-Ta ... ease/33036

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:16 am

I still don't understand how boring isn't conducive to getting sleepy easier.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:57 am

No boring is just torture - I simply can't listen to that 'let me hold one finger on that pad for an hour' 'relaxation' music. I need something I won't turn off and that holds some interest for me, something worth being mindful of.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:29 am

incubus wrote:I still don't understand how boring isn't conducive to getting sleepy easier.

I have no idea whether there's any validity to my own perception other than my own experiments work for me.

If something is too boring, e.g., surf sound, it doesn't distract me enough and my mind wanders. If something is too busy, it causes me to focus on it actively. In both cases, I have difficulty falling asleep, but for different reasons.

Stuff that is interesting, but can't be memorized, i.e., has no perceptible hook, catches my attention, but doesn't cause me to actively focus on it, e.g., sing it, hum it, think about it.

So drones, slow random melodies, even modulated noise, etc.

I think that it varies a lot by person based on why they have trouble sleeping.

Music for insomnia that isn't boring