KVR Audio

nickamandote · Post by **nickamandote** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:41 pm

Final version - good luck everyone!

Fl Studio 12

8x Spiral Generator 2
8x Fruity Parametric EQ2
1x Fruity Delay
1x TDR Kotelnikov
1x W1 Limiter

DR11

https://soundcloud.com/nickamandote/nic ... rone-sos-1

asi4 · Post by **asi4** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:03 pm

Hi!
My entry:

https://soundcloud.com/andrew-sinitsin/ ... s-can-hurt

DAW: Reaper 5

Spiral Generator 9 instances

DAW native FX:
ReaEQ
ReaDelay
ReaComp

3rd party plug-ins:
Limiter No.6
MComb
MTremolo
MCompressor
MUtility
Soundspot FAT
TAL Reverb III
TAL Reverb 4
U-he Protoverb
Valhalla FreqEcho
Tritik Krush
Klanghelm MJUCjr
Klanghelm DC1A2
Klanghelm IVGI 1&2
Voxengo MSED

Armagibbon · Post by **Armagibbon** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:39 pm

Anyone want a weirdass trumpet? Found it on the way while I made a shitty lead. Sound reminded me of some old keyboard workstations.

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:53 pm

Alrighty, here's mine... I thought about making it longer, but at 49 instances it wasn't possible to really work with SG anymore on my machine. It's only a 12 core Xeon computer, you know.

Anyway, it's been quite some good fun while it was still fluent. The occasional, unprovoked freakouts of SG and funny GUI flips didn't take away from the overall curiosity of wrestling the oscilloscope into pretty patterns and fascinating sounds. A very artistic type of instrument, really!

https://soundcloud.com/taronium/taron-amentothesting

Amen to the Sting
'Tis the season...for them pesky little mosquitoes. Felt like Spiral Generator is the perfect fit to reflect on it! 8}

SG instances: 49
DAW: MuLab (http://www.mutools.com)
FX: EQs, OnBeat, Mid-Side Processor, Compressor, delay_cross, binaural

3rd Party: OTT, OculusSpatializer, LoudMax64, Abstract Chamber, Auburn Sounds Panagement

Armagibbon · Post by **Armagibbon** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:54 pm

Damn that's kickass drum work man. Makes me wanna redo the perc in mine.

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:50 am

THANKS, yeah, that was fun, too. But I really, really battled with the snare/snares. The master snare is just one instance, but I had to noodle it ad nauseam to wrestle down the quaky character, while still being tonal and kind of complex. The other snare was an attempt to replace the first one, using two instances, but it somehow didn't have the same snap and presence, but I still liked it and used it to give more depth to the drums.
After listening to it to the 100th time, finally accepting the sounds, I finally could focus on the overall flow of the drums and hooked in certain accents, transitions and little flares. And that was about 4 hours ago, hehehe. At that point I literally had to render out the song to really listen to it without processing stutters.

...and here we are!

I've made a bunch of other percussion sounds that were quite exciting, but really couldn't expand anymore.

Hopefully there will come another update to SG, supporting envelopes on LFO parameters, which would really make percs awesome!
And, hopefully, there will be some way to optimize the routines yet some more, possibly some sort of adaptive management of computing components or the likes to help make this run a wee bit faster.

...because it can do great sounds with plenty of character!

Armagibbon · Post by **Armagibbon** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:05 pm

All that for snares? Shit gotta think twice about mine now, it's just white noise and a high pitched kick stacked all lazy. I'm still trying to bang out one good cymbal too. Can never get this atonal fm bell shit to work without an op matrix to simplify it for my stupid head. Just f*ckin hopeless over here but it's nothin to all you synth pros hahaha

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:19 pm

It depends on what you want your snare to do. It could just be a smack, then a simple construction like yours totally does the trick. But if you want it to provide a focal point of some sort with a specific character, it takes a bit of extra effort. Sometimes that's totally over the top, of course, but it just happens... to me.
With cymbals, playing with the density carefully seems very successful. Though, it seems that SG really has all its core secrets in the LFO, when it comes to conscious synthesis. The other features that look like core stuff, really are more fringe modifiers, I find.
Those only really can be controlled (in my case) by using a proper oscilloscope. And you have to understand the LFO on phase with a ramp to really take control over what's happening.

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:15 pm

Taron wrote: ... With cymbals, playing with the density carefully seems very successful.

True ... the density control has lots of sweet points and it's effects at times are not "linear" in any way, wrt the sound you get. You just have to play around and nudge it a bit at a time.

Also agree that LFO modulations seem to be the key to success - greatly so in your track it seems! Beautiful things going on. Good luck - to me it's a winner all the way.

dB

the five assed monkey · Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:18 pm

https://soundcloud.com/the-five-assed-m ... -spiralish

Ableton Live 9

20 Instances of Spiral Generator (CPU is dead)

Ableton Effects:
Compressors
EQ
Saturator
Auto Pan
Utility
Multiband Dynamics
Reverb
Delays
Limiter
Beat Repeat
LFO

Free Effects:
OTT
Dimension Expander
W1 Limiter

Good luck everybody!

eraze the borders · Post by **eraze the borders** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:04 am

My song for OSC 101. IYAGTHKP (If You Are Going Through Hell Keep Going)

I struggled at first to get some useful sounds out of it, but after a while I found out how to tame this little beast. I really enjoyed the crazy stuff you can do with Spiral Generator and I think it has a good sound quality.

I hope you'll like it. To be honest, I'm a little proud of my entry this month

Cheers!

https://soundcloud.com/eraze-the-border ... kg-osc-101

All sounds made from scratch (except kick = tweaked preset) with Spiral Generator for One Synth Challenge 101.

DAW: Reaper 5.40

17 x Spiral Generator

ReaEQ
ReaComp
Voxengo OldSkoolVerb
TAL Reverb III
TAL-DUB-II
TAL Filter II
Camel Crusher
TDR Kotelnikov
Ferric TDS

Mastering:
ReaEQ / TDR Kotelnikov / Limiter No 6

Analysis: Voxengo SPAN

Programator2 · Post by **Programator2** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:12 pm

Hi!

Here's my track for this month:
https://soundcloud.com/programator2-1/lurking-spiral

Track details:
DAW - Podium Free
24 instances of Spiral Generator
Send effects: 1x epicVerb, 1x Kiesel Free Delay
Track effects: 14x SonEQ, 2x BitterSweet II, 5x A1StereoControl, 3x TDR Kotelnikov, 2x Saturation Knob, 1x TDR VOS SlickEQ, 2x TDR Nova, 1x Ambience, 1x TAL Dub III, 2x BootEQmkII
Master bus: A1StereoControl, Luftikus, OTT, TDR Nova, TDR VOS SlickEQ, Limiter No6
Analysis: RS-MET Signal Analyzer

] Peter:H [ · Post by **] Peter:H [** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:25 pm

Still looking foward to listening ot that one singular spiral soundtrack. Where's it?
Closest to getting close to what I understand is the the essence of SG is in my opinion is still Generaldiomedes.
Sorry to say, but this synth should be used experimental like badass jerombeam fenderson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPUdhm2 ... freload=10 or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19jv0HM ... freload=10
I vote for jerabeam 5 points

Out of that reasoning I've given up to submit "something" when I realized that I only try to simulate sort of "standard" instruments with it...not my month.

Taron · Post by **Taron** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:49 pm

THAT is indeed awesome stuff!

Very inspiring, but also very saturated or satisfied, like...I wouldn't know "what to add" so to say!?
I don't think there's any necessary mandate on being purist. The "quest" is to use a synth as sound source and do with it as you please. It's not a philosophical challenge, but a musical challenge and there's a place for any inclination in the OSC. You may also judge on your preference, but judging on narrow principles like "who did the purest piece" seems mildly out of place, if I may say so. To reduce any synth to it's pure concept would also be a waste of its full potential. The intrinsic character of a synth ordinarily always remains and inspires the resulting sounds, regardless of where you take it.
What I dislike, is if massive treatments turn every synth into a more or less good foundation for the exact same effects, like it used to happen quite a bit with them dubstep tracks, yet, even their one should appreciate the effort and specific understanding.
So...those Jerobeam things are totally awesome and exciting to look at and listening to. But I would hold absolutely nobody to that "standard". It would seem dramatically narrow minded, no?!

Thanks for the links, though... really brilliant stuff!

generaldiomedes · Post by **generaldiomedes** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 2:31 pm

Thanks for the shout out Peter

The field is shaping up nicely, this one is gonna be good!

p.s. that jerabeam stuff is very interesting, it would probably be good to listen to it once in a while for inspiration.

One Synth Challenge #101: Spiral Generator (Taron Wins!)