whyterabbyt wrote:Nowhk wrote:Not sure about your example.
On a forum text I don't care about these details (I just ignore them).
If I read a novel on a PDF or by original "hand-made" text perception CHANGE! Even the message from the author... seeing how author write letters and such.
So even the slightest change in the letters, from the change in rasterisation as text is scrolled, to variations in ambient lighting, that's what affects your emotional response to the writing?
And the words themselves, the sentences, they're not nearly as important.
While I'm definitely not going to follow this practically pointless argument down the rabbit hole, I will pose this question (and mention I don't think these are very good analogies for the purpose of this quest): Why would anyone care about special typeset or fonts?
All perception isn't equal anyway.
Back to music and timbre. Most people do not have ears that are terrifically fine, in my experience and that includes KVR Audio Forum. If it's *the music* that creates or reminds or what-have-you of emotion; analogous to *the words* are what does that on a page, not the appearance of the words, would it require recognition of "timbre" to the degree the audience is responding to specific instruments and the emotion is located here? Because that's what you said! Your analogy now is not in agreement with your earlier assertion.
@Nowhk, no, I wouldn't blame you for varying perception nor the notion 'music isn't concrete' like a mathematical question that has a definite solution.
As to Whyte's problem with <endlessly repeating 'how can people cope with perceptual inconsistencies'>, I wouldn't blame one for that assessment either really.
So back to something useful: Flat has been mentioned. A more flat (I don't know of any transducer for music that's totally flat or if that is very desirable) response is known as a reference, e.g., NS 10 monitors are known as a Reference Monitor. Then out in the world where people experience music the problems arise. Big boost to the bass is common, added action all over is not uncommon.
Environmental changes, I don't know specifically what is meant here, but let's say you have a cold, your hearing isn't the same. It's actually known that physiological differences create hearing variance. So, don't expect to do crucial mixes with a cold. Don't upload the thing you haven't lived with a couple of days such as my example where I didn't hear much where there was certainly a lot of difference created with that method. If you have a lot of bass, expect to try more than one set of speakers and/or phones, flatter for reference and then very colored.
Expect Soundcloud's codec to ruin that and if that's a big one for you, learn to master for Soundcloud.