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eXode · Post by **eXode** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:04 pm

Reason 10 is somewhat of a paradox.

The stuff on offer in Reason 10 could just as easily have been a Rig (Bundle of REs) in the shop. There is very little incitement for existing users to upgrade at this point, especially users who might already be well equipped with various REs and VSTs (Serum, Komplete, Omnisphere, etc).

But with the inclusion of Europa in particular, I can definitely see the pull for someone who is choosing their first DAW.

sfxsound3 · Post by **sfxsound3** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:16 pm

eXode wrote:But with the inclusion of Europa in particular

After Thor, we get Europa. Is a rainbow flag included in the boxed version? Politically correct is a term for a reason. Who's next? Mohammad? Oh wait, he's a bad guy, we don't play and/or record with bad guys.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:26 pm

I've got no horse in this race so I should just probably shut up. It definitely feels quite weak for a x.0 release, but looking on the whole DAW market we've seen this trend becoming more common. New plugins, redesigned interfaces more gigabytes of samples.

But could it be that DAWs - generally speaking - have come so far that innovation is starting to look like a risky gamble. I mean - with most DAWs you have all the tools you need to do anything. Even the bundled effects are on a very high level today.

/C

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:26 pm

sfxsound3 wrote:After Thor, we get Europa. Is a rainbow flag included in the boxed version? Politically correct is a term for a reason. Who's next? Mohammad? Oh wait, he's a bad guy, we don't play and/or record with bad guys.

I know you're trying to be cheeky, but mythological deities names for synths has been a mainstay in hardware since the first synths appeared. I think it's pretty cool, and keeps with the tradition.

Myself? I'm still waiting for an 8-Pound-Baby-Jesus Bass Machine.

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eXode · Post by **eXode** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:35 pm

EnochLight wrote:
sfxsound3 wrote:After Thor, we get Europa. Is a rainbow flag included in the boxed version? Politically correct is a term for a reason. Who's next? Mohammad? Oh wait, he's a bad guy, we don't play and/or record with bad guys.
I know you're trying to be cheeky, but mythological deities names for synths has been a mainstay in hardware since the first synths appeared. I think it's pretty cool, and keeps with the tradition.

Myself? I'm still waiting for an 8-Pound-Baby-Jesus Bass Machine.
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But if we're talking mythology in particular, Europa was abducted (and possibly raped) by Zeus in bull form so I guess political correctness flew out the window with that one. :O

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:43 pm

Meh. At some point, I liked Reason and considered purchasing a license. But with the current GUI and workflow, it makes no sense in 2017. It would look so dated and ridiculous on my 4K screen. Improvements in these areas would have made way more sense than just adding instruments.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:59 pm

eXode wrote: But if we're talking mythology in particular, Europa was abducted (and possibly raped) by Zeus in bull form so I guess political correctness flew out the window with that one. :O

Hahaha! Oh yeah, then there's that.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:27 pm

keel wrote:GUI fixes, but no. When you going to fix your super tiny little GUI's, fonts, playlist, etc.

Im not a reason user, but i was one when i started learning making music in 2005. When vst was introduced to Reason 9.5 i installed the trial version for curiosity and nostalgia and man the GUI really needs some heavy overhaul. What was usable on my 1024x768 screen 10 years ago now looks cramped, small and a little bit blurry on 1920x1080p

Version 10 makes me think of an anniversary, GUI update would be a great anniversary gift for Reason users

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:34 pm

EvilDragon wrote:The Reason rack gets really clunky to use in bigger projects, despite how "cool" it might look at first.

totaly agree

I actually think Reason rack would do great as instrument and vst instrument host being as vst instrument. WIth all those routings, modulation, effects it would be pretty cool to build own instruments by adding envelopes, lfos to synths that dont have (the legend).

starflakeprj · Post by **starflakeprj** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:43 pm

Guys, you are so picky. I'm running Reason at 3840x1600, and my eyes are 42 years old. I don't have perfect vision, but no glasses either

Just kidding. even though I don't have too much problem with the GUI, a re-sizable interface would be nice.

jacqueslacouth · Post by **jacqueslacouth** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:01 pm

I am running Reason on a 5K screen at 5120 x 2880. My eyesight is rapidly degenerating due to diabetes but I can still work in Reason without much eye strain. I cannot however read the nutrition labels on ANY food packaging these days....so yeh, it could be a tad bigger, but not actually a catastrophe.

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:26 pm

Elektronisch wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:The Reason rack gets really clunky to use in bigger projects, despite how "cool" it might look at first.
totaly agree

I actually think Reason rack would do great as instrument and vst instrument host being as vst instrument. WIth all those routings, modulation, effects it would be pretty cool to build own instruments by adding envelopes, lfos to synths that dont have (the legend).

I know it's f* offtopic, but can't resist, MUX knows it brilliantly and without it EDM in Cubase would huge PITA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07EjCid ... e=youtu.be

sry for off again

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:28 pm

Does the beta sound good?

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:33 pm

sfxsound3 wrote:After Thor, we get Europa. Is a rainbow flag included in the boxed version? Politically correct is a term for a reason.

How is Thor politically correct. Would it be better to call it Loki, as in LowKey ?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:34 pm

xbitz wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:The Reason rack gets really clunky to use in bigger projects, despite how "cool" it might look at first.
totaly agree

I actually think Reason rack would do great as instrument and vst instrument host being as vst instrument. WIth all those routings, modulation, effects it would be pretty cool to build own instruments by adding envelopes, lfos to synths that dont have (the legend).
I know it's f* offtopic, but can't resist, MUX knows it brilliantly and without it EDM in Cubase would huge PITA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07EjCid ... e=youtu.be

sry for off again

I'm not sure if that is exactly essential for EDM... (after all, Cubase is, alongside Logic, probably one of the most used for EDM) but, that surely looks might powerful. I get the appeal.

Reason 10 incoming