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A poll for Virus owners

Do you need a softsynth emulating Virus?

- I have Virus and I'm fine with using it as a hardware synth, therefore I'm not interested in emulations
19
28%
- I have Virus and woud love to have a VSTi/AU emulation
17
25%
- I had Virus in the past and woud love to have a VSTi/AU emulation
20
30%
- I have Virus or had it in the past, not interested in emulations because there are more interesting software and hardware synths
11
16%
 
Total votes : 67
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Synthman2000
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321 posts since 27 Apr, 2016

Postby Synthman2000; Wed May 31, 2017 12:53 pm Re: A poll for Virus owners

Result !

(Actually scrap the Servisol switch cleaner thing unless you have done it before, you need to be a bit careful and follow some sensible precautions)
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aMUSEd
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28055 posts since 14 Sep, 2002, from In teh net

Postby aMUSEd; Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:44 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

Set it up today and have been testing it but still getting some sync issues, mainly when using the Ti in D or LIVE mode though. I'm wondering what else I need to do to reduce it, I have a RME Fireface interface so am I better off using the RME drivers with the Virus in Control more or its own? (and there are 'bitperfect drivers' now - not sure what they do). Also should I set the RME to be hardware clock, would that reduce sync issues? (RME has good jitter protection)

Now I have my Mac right next to the Ti and my other synths I can also get one of these cables for my Fireface and see if it improves performance.
tripleflows
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74 posts since 21 Feb, 2012

Postby tripleflows; Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:49 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

An article about the possible future (???) of Virus
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Synthman2000
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321 posts since 27 Apr, 2016

Postby Synthman2000; Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:11 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

Interesting article. I find that the modern control afforded by VSTi is very sweet, totally accurate control and easy, drop down Cubase track automation, all easy and logically arranged in your track list, fantastic. When you are running a heavy session of 50+ tracks navigation becomes hard work and slows the final process of a track. (especially when you are running an old skool 17inch monitor and mouse/keyboard like myself)

The possible drawback of the Virus for 2017 is cumbersome track layouts for MIDI, audio and automation (at least in Cubase). i.e. I made apart recently and when I copy it, the automation does not follow the MIDI part so you have a lot of fiddling to do to move it along, range select copy and paste etc. Becomes a drag workflow wise. There may be some way round this but I am not sure of it myself. So you have the main Virus Instrument channels x 4, 4 x MIDI + probably a minimum of 4 x automation (maybe 8 or more) under drop downs and it all becomes a lot to take care of and keep up with and under control, and I only have a 4 part Snow.

This alone would put me off the 16 part TI2 full desktop version. The Snow gives you the sound you want with about as much headmess as I am able to deal with without killing inspiration.

I love the idea of the full TI2, not so much the cost, so it remains a dream for now. All in all quite happy with the Snow a balance betwen the sounds vs the hassles. And if a track is going well, by the time you know it is something worth completing...that it is worth bouncing some parts to audio, saving the presets and dumping the labelled MIDI part ona spare track down the bottom of your session and taking time to get more Virus in the track if the track is asking for it.

I wonder if they stopped producing the Snow because it was eating into profits as it sold like hot cakes leaving a lot of TI2 16 part stock in the Access warehouse ? Stopping production of Snow pushed up the second hand Snow prices and probaly helped them shift TI2 16 part stock. Just a theory in mind.

Personally I thnk the Snow is spot on balance between getting that sound and the integration work (system set up and actual use in DAW timeline) needed to get it rocking along in your tunes.

I can think of no reason other than the Snow sold too well for them to have stopped making it.

The bottom line for myself at least is once I heard what it can do there is no going backwards away from it. I absolutely love the sound of the Virus, I came out of a session music making the other day and the sound for what I am doing is so good I was beaming ear to ear after programming a sound from it.
CharlyLN
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99 posts since 17 Jan, 2017

Postby CharlyLN; Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:40 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

Found an old track on soundcloud which was completly made with the TI( except drums)
https://soundcloud.com/trance-contest-i ... me-to-time
D-Fusion
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3547 posts since 13 Jul, 2004, from Earth

Postby D-Fusion; Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:03 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

Spire is the closest you get.
I have a Access Virus C and Spire sounds almost the same.
The sound is lower in Spire compared to the in your face sound from my Virus but that can be fixed by adding more volume in spire.

The sound is so close that a A+B test would make it impossible to guess which is virus or spire.
chk071
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13463 posts since 10 Apr, 2010, from Germany

Postby chk071; Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:10 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

D-Fusion wrote:Spire is the closest you get.
I have a Access Virus C and Spire sounds almost the same.
The sound is lower in Spire compared to the in your face sound from my Virus but that can be fixed by adding more volume in spire.

The sound is so close that a A+B test would make it impossible to guess which is virus or spire.

My obligatory links to some comparison videos at this point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM02l1_USjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKxugy3uHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj3qf0I1AjE
It's not "news" anymore, it's "infotainment".
Elektronisch
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1691 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Postby Elektronisch; Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:03 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

D-Fusion wrote:Spire is the closest you get.
I have a Access Virus C and Spire sounds almost the same.
The sound is lower in Spire compared to the in your face sound from my Virus but that can be fixed by adding more volume in spire.

The sound is so close that a A+B test would make it impossible to guess which is virus or spire.


Indeed Spire may sound similar but not the same and far from almost the same. Ive tried recreating few patches and very simple patches just using pitch to lfo mudulation and the sound is just different. But saying that from all the tryouts to recreate it Spire got the job done closest.
Elektronisch
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1691 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Postby Elektronisch; Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:06 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

chk071 wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:Spire is the closest you get.
I have a Access Virus C and Spire sounds almost the same.
The sound is lower in Spire compared to the in your face sound from my Virus but that can be fixed by adding more volume in spire.

The sound is so close that a A+B test would make it impossible to guess which is virus or spire.

My obligatory links to some comparison videos at this point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM02l1_USjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKxugy3uHc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj3qf0I1AjE


Those are just shallow comparisons. Only primary elements sound similar throw in some modulation and you can then really see that there are differences.
D-Fusion
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3547 posts since 13 Jul, 2004, from Earth

Postby D-Fusion; Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:27 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

Elektronisch wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:Spire is the closest you get.
I have a Access Virus C and Spire sounds almost the same.
The sound is lower in Spire compared to the in your face sound from my Virus but that can be fixed by adding more volume in spire.

The sound is so close that a A+B test would make it impossible to guess which is virus or spire.


Indeed Spire may sound similar but not the same and far from almost the same. Ive tried recreating few patches and very simple patches just using pitch to lfo mudulation and the sound is just different. But saying that from all the tryouts to recreate it Spire got the job done closest.

True :)
I just love the sound of both and you are right. Some patches sounds very close which is what i meant to write but i got too excited while typing :)

But i won't sell my Virus-C yet since i have only had it for 4 weeks now and it does sound great and in your face for those Early year 1998-2000+ sounds that i remember from records which is what i bought it for.
Then i discovered Spire which i bought because it gave me that Virus feeling when i tried it.
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Elektronisch
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1691 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Postby Elektronisch; Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:30 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

D-Fusion wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:Spire is the closest you get.
I have a Access Virus C and Spire sounds almost the same.
The sound is lower in Spire compared to the in your face sound from my Virus but that can be fixed by adding more volume in spire.

The sound is so close that a A+B test would make it impossible to guess which is virus or spire.


Indeed Spire may sound similar but not the same and far from almost the same. Ive tried recreating few patches and very simple patches just using pitch to lfo mudulation and the sound is just different. But saying that from all the tryouts to recreate it Spire got the job done closest.

True :)
I just love the sound of both and you are right. Some patches are very very close and in a mix it won't matter.


I didnt said that :)
chk071
KVRAF
 
13463 posts since 10 Apr, 2010, from Germany

Postby chk071; Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:31 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

Virus C is for me one of the most beautiful devices ever made. :love:

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It's not "news" anymore, it's "infotainment".
D-Fusion
KVRAF
 
3547 posts since 13 Jul, 2004, from Earth

Postby D-Fusion; Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:41 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

Elektronisch wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:
Elektronisch wrote:
D-Fusion wrote:Spire is the closest you get.
I have a Access Virus C and Spire sounds almost the same.
The sound is lower in Spire compared to the in your face sound from my Virus but that can be fixed by adding more volume in spire.

The sound is so close that a A+B test would make it impossible to guess which is virus or spire.


Indeed Spire may sound similar but not the same and far from almost the same. Ive tried recreating few patches and very simple patches just using pitch to lfo mudulation and the sound is just different. But saying that from all the tryouts to recreate it Spire got the job done closest.

True :)
I just love the sound of both and you are right. Some patches are very very close and in a mix it won't matter.


I didnt said that :)

I did say that but i changed my post to be more correct ;)
D-Fusion
KVRAF
 
3547 posts since 13 Jul, 2004, from Earth

Postby D-Fusion; Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:42 am Re: A poll for Virus owners

chk071 wrote:Virus C is for me one of the most beautiful devices ever made. :love:

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:love:
Impodiam
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44 posts since 10 Aug, 2017

Postby Impodiam; Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:17 pm Re: A poll for Virus owners

chk071 wrote:Virus C is for me one of the most beautiful devices ever made. :love:

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I second this. Its just so...perfect :love:
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