Mix-comparison: Which is better?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2588 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
My latest Song exists in two mix versions. The first version is a mix
I did aiming at a good reproduction on cheap and small speakers.
Also this should have a good sound in a car.
The second mix is done from the scratch (stems) aiming at big Hifi-
reproduction speakers at home. So: If you play this two versions on
your speakers, how do they sound to you?
The two versions are:
1: http://andy-enroe.bplaced.net/22_songs/ ... is_day.mp3
2: http://andy-enroe.bplaced.net/22_songs/ ... _arend.mp3
My Questions are:
--> a. On what type of speakers do you listen (studio monitors,
ghettoblaster, PC-minispeakers, hifi-speakers, size)?
--> b. Which version do you like more?
--> c. Why do you like this version more?
--> d. In your very first impression: What would
you change (arrangement, sound, mix) in
your favourite version even though?
Thanx for your answers!
I did aiming at a good reproduction on cheap and small speakers.
Also this should have a good sound in a car.
The second mix is done from the scratch (stems) aiming at big Hifi-
reproduction speakers at home. So: If you play this two versions on
your speakers, how do they sound to you?
The two versions are:
1: http://andy-enroe.bplaced.net/22_songs/ ... is_day.mp3
2: http://andy-enroe.bplaced.net/22_songs/ ... _arend.mp3
My Questions are:
--> a. On what type of speakers do you listen (studio monitors,
ghettoblaster, PC-minispeakers, hifi-speakers, size)?
--> b. Which version do you like more?
--> c. Why do you like this version more?
--> d. In your very first impression: What would
you change (arrangement, sound, mix) in
your favourite version even though?
Thanx for your answers!
free mp3s + info: andy-enroe.de songs + weird stuff: enroe.de
- KVRian
- 641 posts since 26 May, 2008 from Iceland.
Can't have a listen on my monitors at the moment but I want to know, do you reference your mixes against released music ? It's amazing how far you can go when you have something to take reference of.
"People are stupid" Gegard Mousasi.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2588 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
In principle yes. But at a certain point I must trustshroom81 wrote:... do you reference your mixes against released music?
my taste and skills, because no song is one to one
exactly comparable to "its" reference. So referencing
is always good, but it's only one part in the game. IMO.
I and another audio mixer tried to "make the best" out
of a song - independent of the reference - and
realizing the inner sound imagination. But how does
this sound imagination appear to others? See
my questions a. - d.
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- KVRian
- 643 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland
Headphones plugged into my laptop.enroe wrote:a. On what type of speakers do you listen (studio monitors, ghettoblaster, PC-minispeakers, hifi-speakers, size)?
Version B.enroe wrote:b. Which version do you like more?
Because the mix has more brightness and clarity to it.enroe wrote:c. Why do you like this version more?
I'll admit I was a bit sad to find that there were no drums in that mix (at least not to the point I listened). I would've loved hearing what those would have sounded like in it.enroe wrote:d. In your very first impression: What would you change (arrangement, sound, mix) in your favourite version even though?
My solo projects:
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2588 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Thank you for answering. Very appreciated!AsPeeXXXVIII wrote:Because the mix has more brightness and clarity to it.enroe wrote:c. Why do you like this version more?
Yes, too bad you didn't listen a little longer: The drums comeAsPeeXXXVIII wrote: I'll admit I was a bit sad to find that there were no drums in that mix (at least not to the point I listened). I would've loved hearing what those would have sounded like in it.
in with the chorus.
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- KVRian
- 643 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland
Right. Note to self: next time, listen to the whole song.enroe wrote:Yes, too bad you didn't listen a little longer: The drums come in with the chorus.
My solo projects:
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Got blocked by Malwarebytes...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2588 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
fluffy_little_something wrote:Got blocked by Malwarebytes...
Mhh ... wondering: Those are pretty normal links to
a normal host without anything: No tracking, no adverts,
nothing but the mp3!
Sorry that you can't listen.
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- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
The original is sounding far better on my ATCs. The 'arend' version sounds pretty horrid, TBH.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2588 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Thanks! This is most interesting!Chris-S wrote:I voted B because it's more dynamic and brighter (but lacks a bit of low-end).
Listed on low-budget hifi-speakers and on my cheap JBL monitors.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2588 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Thank you Hermetech Mastering. The ATC-Monitors haveHermetech Mastering wrote:The original is sounding far better on my ATCs. The 'arend' version sounds pretty horrid, TBH.
the reputation of being very analytic and precise - and
they don't have an overemphasis of high frequencies, so
your valuation is exceptionally interesting!
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Hermetech Mastering Hermetech Mastering https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7418
- KVRAF
- 1619 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy
No worries, neither mix is sounding perfect here (the original is a bit muddy, IMO), but it definitely sounds better than the second, which sounds over-processed and bass light to me.
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- KVRist
- 162 posts since 25 Oct, 2013
just heard the beginning on my laptop speakers - v2 lacks lowend and sounds too toyish (even with the laptop speakers lacks "lowend")
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2588 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
Thanky you "ppp ...", it's interesting, because many peoplepppppppppp wrote:just heard the beginning on my laptop speakers - v2 lacks lowend and sounds too toyish (even with the laptop speakers lacks "lowend")
listen "only" on laptop speakers or similar small speakers.
Version 2 has more bass at around 40-100 hz. But on small
speakers these frequencies can't be heard - even not their
harmonics.
Version 1 has an emphasis around 120-200 hz in the upper
bass region. These frequencies seem to be effective on most
small speakers.
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