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miden
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Postby miden; Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:34 pm Looking a decent Timpani VST

But not IK Multimedia - both Miroslav and the Percussion sets have them, but I don' need to spend well over $150 each (AUD) just to get timpanis!

So I am looking for recommendations for a timpani VST that is decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg haha!

Thanks
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wagtunes
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Postby wagtunes; Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:40 pm Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

miden wrote:But not IK Multimedia - both Miroslav and the Percussion sets have them, but I don' need to spend well over $150 each (AUD) just to get timpanis!

So I am looking for recommendations for a timpani VST that is decent and doesn't cost an arm and a leg haha!

Thanks


A dedicated Timpani VST only that's decent? What do you consider decent? I use EWQL and it's amazing off the charts fantastic. Hits, rolls, crescendos.

Listen to this track. You can hear it in several places with the roll at the end.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... -originals

You're not going to find something this realistic that's just a dedicated Timpani.
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progtronic
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Postby progtronic; Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:00 pm Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

What's your budget?

Or, just google "free timpani vst".

Or.. look into an entire, sales priced orchestral instrument set.

Here's one (sale ends in a few days): Virtuoso Ensembles
Romantique Tp
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Postby Romantique Tp; Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:54 am Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

Looking for a timpani virtual studio technology
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egbert101
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Postby egbert101; Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:29 am Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j6g3i

http://www.vstplanet.com/News/2014/Sams ... m-vsti.htm

I mean, it took me 5 minutes looking on google. Honestly, these kind of questions are just laziness. And if you want realism, you're going to have to buy a multisampled library which won't be cheap. If there is some obscure freeware Timpani out there, well google is your friend, go do it yourself.
bigcat1969
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Postby bigcat1969; Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:13 am Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

Decent is relative and I'm hardly unbiased, but this is free and deleting is easy...

http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?pl ... ni&id=2731
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miden
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Postby miden; Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:29 am Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

egbert101 wrote:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1j6g3i

http://www.vstplanet.com/News/2014/Sams ... m-vsti.htm

I mean, it took me 5 minutes looking on google. Honestly, these kind of questions are just laziness. And if you want realism, you're going to have to buy a multisampled library which won't be cheap. If there is some obscure freeware Timpani out there, well google is your friend, go do it yourself.


Ahh, but you don't get the benefit of "user experience" hence the question here...Didn't need you to do the "google speech" man, just contribute if you actually know something!

Oh and obviously I am not looking for free...most free stuff is ultimately pretty crap, or is only a tease for a "buy" at some point.
miden
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Postby miden; Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:33 am Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

progtronic wrote:What's your budget?

Or, just google "free timpani vst".

Or.. look into an entire, sales priced orchestral instrument set.

Here's one (sale ends in a few days): Virtuoso Ensembles


$90 for one instrument? And it (the timpani) is only 258 meg so won't be that impressive I'd imagine. But thanks for the link. Looks like a nice plug otherwise :)
miden
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Postby miden; Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:36 am Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

wagtunes wrote:A dedicated Timpani VST only that's decent? What do you consider decent? I use EWQL and it's amazing off the charts fantastic. Hits, rolls, crescendos.

Listen to this track. You can hear it in several places with the roll at the end.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... -originals

You're not going to find something this realistic that's just a dedicated Timpani.


Sorry, iLok territory here...no go - totally!
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wagtunes
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Postby wagtunes; Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:45 am Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

miden wrote:
wagtunes wrote:A dedicated Timpani VST only that's decent? What do you consider decent? I use EWQL and it's amazing off the charts fantastic. Hits, rolls, crescendos.

Listen to this track. You can hear it in several places with the roll at the end.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... -originals

You're not going to find something this realistic that's just a dedicated Timpani.


Sorry, iLok territory here...no go - totally!


I'm sure VSL will probably have a comparable quality product. Again, it won't be cheap.

I doubt you're going to find what you're looking for stand alone.

In fact, I'll bet every dollar in my bank account that you won't.
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progtronic
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Postby progtronic; Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:26 pm Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

miden wrote:
progtronic wrote:What's your budget?

Or, just google "free timpani vst".

Or.. look into an entire, sales priced orchestral instrument set.

Here's one (sale ends in a few days): Virtuoso Ensembles


$90 for one instrument? And it (the timpani) is only 258 meg so won't be that impressive I'd imagine. But thanks for the link. Looks like a nice plug otherwise :)


Well, here's something even more expensive. It's my 'go-to' library for really solid orchestral percussion: Rhapsody: Orchestral Percussion

You're prolly not gonna find a decent stand-alone timpani library. So.. it's either free & low quality, or nothing.. I guess. :neutral:
wltchris101
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Postby wltchris101; Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:14 pm Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

You could try this one for $79 if you have Kontakt. It has both mallets and sticks covering all the usual articulations, and then patches covering unusual playing techniques and sound design stuff. I really like it.

http://www.modwheel.co.nz/timphonia
miden
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Postby miden; Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:02 pm Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

Yeah, thanks to the last three posters - I suspect you are 100% correct. The IK libraries are 99 Euro so maybe one of the ones suggested above will be the way to go, they are a bit cheaper.

In answer to a question, no, no Kontakt...only the base version Essentials, or something like that. It is a full version, just greatly stripped down so I am thinking those libraries would not run.
AstroCastro
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Postby AstroCastro; Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:24 pm Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

miden wrote:
$90 for one instrument? And it (the timpani) is only 258 meg so won't be that impressive I'd imagine. But thanks for the link. Looks like a nice plug otherwise :)


What do you want from an instrument like timpani, 5GB of samples? :hihi:

Decent timpani "sound library" is consisted of:
4 layers: mp, mf, f, ff (mezzo-piano, mezzo-forte, forte, fortissimo) with 2-3 round robbins.
Then you have different tunings: C, D, E, F, G, A, B in two octaves.
Then you add some rolls and crescendos and if you convert all of this to flac or Kontakt's ncw you'll end up with around 150MB of samples. This is enough to have a good sampled timpani.
You can add 15 round robbins if you want, you basically won't even hear the difference because of the nature of the instrument, its low, muddy sound.
When you place music on top of them, you won't be able to tell difference between 2 round robins and 10,
you are absolutely fine even with 2 round robins, just to avoid artificial machine gun-ish sound.

Most commercial orchestral sound libraries have timpani sampled this way or in a similar fashion.
Nobody is gonna sample timpani too deep, to stack 10 layers and 15 round robins because it's an useless overkill.
Those 258MB's is perfectly fine when it comes to size.
miden
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Postby miden; Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:49 pm Re: Looking a decent Timpani VST

yeah you're probably right haha!
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