quintosardo wrote:Audio demo: am I asking them to do that? Really. I'll never finish improving my English. I mean two things: "send some audio if you want to see how we would process it and get the preset" and "if you are commenting about some audio result you get, nobody will be able to understand if you don't post it". _we_ take care of demos, not simply audio but whole tutorials, as you can see in our website. We'll be adding lots for this one, too.
Actually, no. You said the following (in order):
Anybody with a hw Distressor here?
Really enough of talking of nothing, lets hear some sounds! Then we can run all the tests we want
No, I didn't hear of anybody answering to my question "are we comparing it to a hw unit", everything else is just wasting time.
Do you want an answer (if talking to me, of course)? I need to understand the question.
If we want to compare, let's do it! That's where the fun is. But we need to hear it. A forum about audio without a single bit of audio?
Come on, let's talk of something real, let's hear it!
If you are not interested in a comparison to hw, which I can understand 100%, you should aim to match the sound, NOT looking at the knobs as they are not related.
Thanks for the test, finally some audio in a thread about audio
Let's work on it if you want to dig more.
There is ZERO implication that users shall send you(!) audio material for you(!) to edit and show the results.
Unless you consider this sidenote as "request" (which still doesn't make it clear either):
P.S. I'll play with the dry file myself and upload some examples and relative presets here if you allow me to
In fact, I highly criticise the lack of showing the hardware unit for comparison in your video. It is also not clear how the routing was done (especially for those not using ProTools).
Control ranges: Disto was born as a huge concept, including Distressors and Fatso, with added modes like "Out of Order" that, intuitively, is something added. Was aimed to extend on the idea of a Distressor while keeping the basic attitude. Looks like many people wanted "a Distressor" so the concept was simplified back to the original, improved, pumped with DSP. For free. Now they are matched. To a Distressor, NOT to previous Disto. But Disto v.2 stays, because, as you see also in this thread, was not a bad idea
So you admit that you're trying to ride the bandwagon in this case?
DISTO was a mashup concept, it's still somewhat broken (according to various posts on GS), so you are once more cutting ties with a concept that people enjoyed and wanted to use, to eventually move on to a "new/improved/simplified version". (I count the days until DISTO-R will be dropped)
Great way to support backwards compatibility to already existing users.
quintosardo wrote:Why should you be out if you are in this thread and will be back for sure. Looks like a fight against something more than talking about gear and audio.
So valid critisicm is now equal to "fighting" - and sarcastic comments are considered "racist" (even though that post is deleted now, I know exactly who was meant!).
This is why a lot of us were saying years ago already, to maybe involve a third party individual to do the public relations (forum presence) for you - with a way better form of communication. While you solely focus on the development side of things.
You didn't learn on that behalf in the last couple of years it seems.
Also - I just saw this:
quintosardo wrote:Whatever you like! Compression is always active (even at "1:1", which became the Britich mode basis). Saturation is after that. So you can just look at the gain reduction meter. I suggest to go quite hot, then use the input Gain knob (which ranges +/-20dB).
Can't agree on that. A 1:1 ratio shall not
compress at all, and I don't think that this was the "British Mode" basis as well. The British Mode (to my understanding) was a desire to influence the attack/release values - not the 1:1 ratio and knee setting.
The Distressor was a digital controlled alternative to the 1176 (FET), LA2A (OPTO) and VCA165 (analog VCA) in the first place, while being way more affordable as well.
Furthermore - this
is really bothering me:
quintosardo wrote:I hope you get my contribution as useful, Disto-S is so new and not yet documented so, while we are loading the instructions online (debugging killed short term plans) I try to help.
This is not the first time you did this. While I was still a "valued customer" of SKNote, there was a huge lack of documentation already. Granted, you can search for the EL-8 Distressor manual on the web and dig through it, but that's not what the users should do.
In fact, your plugin creation is even different
to the hardware you you have the audacity to claim it to be (and I quote from your homepage): "Simply the best emulation of a classic."
It is not clear if you "fused" the Detector settings with the Audio Out settings - there is only one HP filter. It's not clear what "BAND" means (unless that's the bell filter in the detection feed). You also use an Auto Gain mechanism that's not documented, we don't know if the "Link" mode is actually altering chaining the mono feed like the hardware (bonus feature!). But apparently you implemented the "UK Mode" (aka: British Mode).
So you basically stabbed at the EL-8X
, while not porting it 1:1
Yet you have the time to completely drop the concept of DISTO (v2), and release a new Distressor (main focus on DISTO-S), while DISTO v2 turns into DISTO-R if I got that right and will be released "at a later later state" as part of the bundle (apparently, available for some users already - yet with an unclear statement whether or not this is the end of the line for this plugin). Which heavily reminds me of what you did with STRIPbus 3 and StripBUS 3.
This to me rings all types of alarm bells.
Slate Digital released FG-STRESS in late September. To keep the hype train going and people interested, you needed(!) to react and get your creation overhauled/fixed and out as fast as possible. If you'd be a Youtuber, that would mean "more clicks = more revenue", because you can enjoy the hype-wave and benefit from that just as much.
Or in short: you (to me!) made another rushed job, that is patched in the weeks to come. And those that want to continue using might still be in for a rude awakening (backwards compatibility).
Again, not the first time you did this
Add to that, that there is no demo system available still, and that no criticism is allowed towards you or your refund policy (299USD is a lot of wood for a software plugin without a demo!)... connect the dots yourself.
If I'd still be a "valued customer" (I'm banned from your company after all, sitting on outdated licenses that I can't sell or forward either)... you'd have a lot(!) of convincing to do
to get me hooked on DISTO-S.
Just to give some perspective from the other side of the fence.