Advice please on basic additive with comfortable GUI and fine tweaking of partials
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
Hello! Would need some advice please
I am looking for an additive synth with precise partial manipulation.
FM8 is my main additive engine but doesn't have an actual partial mixer.
I own Virsyn Tera. It's great but high partials are a bit hard to tweak other than playing around with mouse strokes. It does have an auto-peak/valley feature with is great though.
Razor and Prism are awesome but it's all too automated..
IIRC same goes with Zebra and many others where the additive module is a bit small and hard to control.
I would think that Synclavier would be close but I would like to see if there is anything better still.
I did like the ZynAddSubFX partial editor as well but this one is not going anywhere..
My ideal would be something in the range of Harmonaut although it's just 32 bits and not developped anymore.
Thanks!\
I am looking for an additive synth with precise partial manipulation.
FM8 is my main additive engine but doesn't have an actual partial mixer.
I own Virsyn Tera. It's great but high partials are a bit hard to tweak other than playing around with mouse strokes. It does have an auto-peak/valley feature with is great though.
Razor and Prism are awesome but it's all too automated..
IIRC same goes with Zebra and many others where the additive module is a bit small and hard to control.
I would think that Synclavier would be close but I would like to see if there is anything better still.
I did like the ZynAddSubFX partial editor as well but this one is not going anywhere..
My ideal would be something in the range of Harmonaut although it's just 32 bits and not developped anymore.
Thanks!\
Last edited by yul on Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:55 pm, edited 5 times in total.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
If you're comfortable with FM, Sytrus is amazing. You won't be sorry. Download the demo and give it a whirl. What have you got to lose?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
Thanks. I believe the partial editor is super tiny and much like the other synths I auditioned. I am really looking for a full scale partial editor window. It doesn't seem like it exists in this day and age
A demo from Axxell here by some local folks near my area is a bit more like my style but in software??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smZ96Kg1hhg
A demo from Axxell here by some local folks near my area is a bit more like my style but in software??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smZ96Kg1hhg
- KVRAF
- 6160 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
....................Don`t blame me for 'The Roots', I just live here.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
Thanks guys!! I got Mulab I feel soo silly for overlooking this unless it came in a recent update..ugh
Obviously yes for FM but at the end of the day it can also be considered additive depending on how you view things (fm8 actually has a fft display on the top right)egbert101 wrote:Weird, I thought FM8 and Sytrus were FM synthesizers.
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
My eyes are terrible (ask anybody) and I don't find Sytrus even close to being considered tiny. I have no problem seeing the partial editor.yul wrote:Thanks. I believe the partial editor is super tiny and much like the other synths I auditioned. I am really looking for a full scale partial editor window. It doesn't seem like it exists in this day and age
A demo from Axxell here by some local folks near my area is a bit more like my style but in software??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smZ96Kg1hhg
Have you demo'd it?
- KVRAF
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Imageline Morphine is the easiest to use and probably the most basic 'classic' additive design - can make great sounds but rather crash prone on Mac (probably stable on Windows - IL just don't know how to code on Mac)
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
I'll certainly check again and Morphine at the same time!! Thanks so much!wagtunes wrote: My eyes are terrible (ask anybody) and I don't find Sytrus even close to being considered tiny. I have no problem seeing the partial editor.
Have you demo'd it?
- KVRist
- 384 posts since 7 Nov, 2013
Highly recommended VST - it's only 49$ (there's even a sale going on right now so you'll probably get it for about 30$), sounds fantastic and the GUI is modern and resizeable. And if you have an iPad you can buy the app for less than 5 bucks I think.egbert101 wrote:You might have luck with Audio Damage Phosphor. Only problem is there is no demo version, and I don't know how big the GUI is, but I've always loved the sound.
I don't think you'll regret it, and even if you do - Audio Damage will refund your money. Works fine, I've done it before.
- KVRAF
- 25417 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Zebra 2.8 (soon to be public beta) has a new much bigger editor as part of the new GUI. Works for Osc's, MSEG's and ModMappers. It's a big improvement!yul wrote: IIRC same goes with Zebra and many others where the additive module is a bit small and hard to control.
Thanks!\
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Because that's what people do here. Somebody asks for a wavetable VST and somebody will name Diva. It doesn't matter what you ask for. Some people have to get their favorite VST into the mix even if the dev is MIA on some deserted island in the South Pacific with no cell phone and no electricity.egbert101 wrote:I've no idea why this guy is recommending a dead instrument from a developer that has decided to abandon all his customers.ZeePok wrote:
If you're looking for precise partial control I'd still recommend DiscoDSP Vertigo!
I know the dev is in Limbo so finding a demo may be difficult, and the GUI is rather tiny on my 1280x1024, but it's very clear and Vertigo has a lot of possibilities, is very good in what it does and it sounds great!
You might have luck with Audio Damage Phosphor. Only problem is there is no demo version, and I don't know how big the GUI is, but I've always loved the sound.
Image Line Morphine is the best recommendation I could give, but given its age and cost (149 Euros) it is overly expensive.
It's why ALL these threads turn into the same "let's name every synth in existence because we can" waste of time.