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Postby aMUSEd; Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:01 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

Anyone know how much longer the upgrade discount is running?
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Postby tooneba; Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:04 pm Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

Does 10's audio clip stretching also stretches automation too, like moving audio clip moves automation?
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Postby OzoneJunkie; Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:38 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

aMUSEd wrote:Anyone know how much longer the upgrade discount is running?


I'm not sure. But, if you "sign up" for the upgrade, you're not actually committed to buying it. Ableton gives you up to something like 2 weeks after the public release of 10 to make the actual purchase. So, there's no harm in going with the upgrade, as you can cancel (not actually purchase) the upgrade.

I think this makes sense, as anyone who's not on the beta team wouldn't know exactly how well things work for them until after trying them.
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Postby XorXisT; Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:39 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

tooneba wrote:Does 10's audio clip stretching also stretches automation too, like moving audio clip moves automation?

Nope.
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Postby aMUSEd; Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:46 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

OzoneJunkie wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Anyone know how much longer the upgrade discount is running?


I'm not sure. But, if you "sign up" for the upgrade, you're not actually committed to buying it. Ableton gives you up to something like 2 weeks after the public release of 10 to make the actual purchase. So, there's no harm in going with the upgrade, as you can cancel (not actually purchase) the upgrade.

I think this makes sense, as anyone who's not on the beta team wouldn't know exactly how well things work for them until after trying them.


Thanks good idea, I am on the beta and so far performance is dreadful but it does have some nice additions when I can eventually get it to work properly
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Postby tooneba; Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:54 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

XorXisT wrote:
tooneba wrote:Does 10's audio clip stretching also stretches automation too, like moving audio clip moves automation?

Nope.

Thanks.
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Postby Daags; Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:57 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

aMUSEd wrote:I am on the beta and so far performance is dreadful


in that case you would appear to be better informed than most people to answer your own question.
when the beta isn't performing dreadfully, that would be the time to wonder when the offer is going to end (upgrade discount runs until release)
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Postby jonljacobi; Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:33 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

I've noticed no degradation in performance. But I don't use a lot of stuff, and no ML4. I've used both the Windows and OS X versions. CPU use in my case seems about the same in both, but OS X has always been high according to their own monitor (and the fan spinning up...)
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Postby thecontrolcentre; Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:10 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

The only issue I've had with the beta is slow boot up times. It can take a few minutes to scan my plugins and load up, but otherwise performance is fine (64bit Win 8.1).
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Postby deadReactor; Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:12 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

Really interesting how differently this thing works for people, almost as if the beta is personalized :wink:
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Postby simmo75; Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:22 am Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

I’m thinking of cancelling my pre-order.
I’m beta testing and really am not very impressed with the performance on mac and the lack of native MPE is bs in today’s market.
I can run way more tracks both midi and Audio without any glitches when I use Cubase 9.5.
How much can you sell a Push2 for now?
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Postby aMUSEd; Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:37 pm Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

thecontrolcentre wrote:The only issue I've had with the beta is slow boot up times. It can take a few minutes to scan my plugins and load up, but otherwise performance is fine (64bit Win 8.1).


Slow is an understatement for me - it can take tens of minutes to boot up and even clicking on sections in the library leads to spinny circles for several seconds
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Postby aMUSEd; Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:38 pm Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

Daags wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:I am on the beta and so far performance is dreadful


in that case you would appear to be better informed than most people to answer your own question.
when the beta isn't performing dreadfully, that would be the time to wonder when the offer is going to end (upgrade discount runs until release)


That's exactly why I'm asking as I get the impression they are getting close to release, they won't go by my issues as most people are not having them
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Postby thecontrolcentre; Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:56 pm Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

aMUSEd wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:The only issue I've had with the beta is slow boot up times. It can take a few minutes to scan my plugins and load up, but otherwise performance is fine (64bit Win 8.1).


Slow is an understatement for me - it can take tens of minutes to boot up and even clicking on sections in the library leads to spinny circles for several seconds


Well ... its still in beta, so hopefully they'll iron this stuff out before release. Especially after the Live 8 debacle ...
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Postby mgw38; Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:26 pm Re: Ableton LIVE 10 ... Officially Announced. (plus: Buy LIVE 9 now with 20% discount, get LIVE 10 free)

Runs perfectly fine for me on Mac OS High Sierra. No bootup or performance issues. However, I noticed that it seems to do a complete library re-scan in the background and that appears to take much longer than under Live 9.
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