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Julien Unison
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Postby Julien Unison; Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:25 am Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Gear list on Relayer Tour 1974 - 1975

"According to Forgotten Yesterdays Tourbooks section,
this is Patrick's gear for the Relayer tour:

Hammond C3 organ,
Fender 73 & 88 pianos,
2 String Thing Synthesizer,
3 minimoogs,
D6 Clavinet,
2 EMS AKS. Synthesizers,
2 mellotrons,
ARP PRO Soloist,
Rhythm Ace drum machine,
2 Binson Echos,
Alpine Horn,
Electronic Slinky,
Grand piano,
Electric Harpsichord."

http://www.yesfans.com/archive/index.php/t-38262.html
https://www.yessongs.nl/06-Relayer.html
U N I S O N : shoegaze / electronic / black metal wall of sound with heavenly voice
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Richard_Synapse
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Postby Richard_Synapse; Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:47 am Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Still no word on having the full pitch bend range of the mpe spec? Can’t use in Bitwig without it.


Do you mean responding to some MIDI RPN message to set it from a controller or do you mean simply increasing the max +/- range on the back panel to 48 semitones? I presume you mean the latter, this is not really related to MPE specifically though (it would work with any MIDI controller).

Richard
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thecontrolcentre
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Postby thecontrolcentre; Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:33 am Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

redlester wrote:
BONES wrote:
v1o wrote:I started going to see bands in 1979 and I have never, ever seen a MiniMoog on stage


I saw Yes at Wembley Arena in 1976 (Going For The One) and 1978 (Tormato), both when Wakeman was still with them, so am guessing I would have been in the presence of a MiniMoog (or two) without realising it at the time. Also, would Kraftwerk have been using them on the Computer World tour (1981)?

(...awaits someone with an equipment list for those tours to pipe up) :hihi:

I thought Wakeman left after Topographic Oceans in 73 ... Patrick Moraz was with them on the Relayer tour in 74.
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Postby Funkybot's Evil Twin; Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:00 am Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Richard_Synapse wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:Still no word on having the full pitch bend range of the mpe spec? Can’t use in Bitwig without it.


Do you mean responding to some MIDI RPN message to set it from a controller or do you mean simply increasing the max +/- range on the back panel to 48 semitones? I presume you mean the latter, this is not really related to MPE specifically though (it would work with any MIDI controller).

Richard


Hi Richard,

There was some discussion here about allowing users to "Lock" certain parameters during preset changes to improve the MPE experience, namely: Pitch Bend Range, and the other MPE back panel settings. The lock functionality on the U-he synths work for just about any parameter, which is nice if you wanted to consider going that route, but an optional lock for [at least] the MPE features would be a very nice addition.

What's currently happening is I set my pithbend range and set Timbre to control filter cutoff and then change a preset and have to repeat that setup process, then change a process and repeat, and so on. Not ideal.
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Postby redlester; Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:08 am Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

thecontrolcentre wrote:I thought Wakeman left after Topographic Oceans in 73 ... Patrick Moraz was with them on the Relayer tour in 74.


That’s correct, but Wakeman re-joined for Going For The One and Tormato. Moraz was only with them for Relayer.
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Postby Echoes in the Attic; Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:31 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Richard_Synapse wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:Still no word on having the full pitch bend range of the mpe spec? Can’t use in Bitwig without it.


Do you mean responding to some MIDI RPN message to set it from a controller or do you mean simply increasing the max +/- range on the back panel to 48 semitones? I presume you mean the latter, this is not really related to MPE specifically though (it would work with any MIDI controller).

Richard


I mean simply increasing the bend range to +/- 48 semitones. Although controllers can change their bend range and some DAWs allow custom bend ranges to be recorded, some others, like Bitwig, expect exactly the signals as per the mpe spec, which for pitch bend range is +/- 48. So if the synth only does +/- 24 for example then any recorded pitch bends would only pitch it half as much as intended. Like you’d pitch a note up a whole note in the midi data but hear a half note bend.

That’s why 48 is necessary for true mpe compatibility.
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EvilDragon
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Postby EvilDragon; Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:59 am Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Agreed both with increasing the PB range and being able to lock parameters individually...
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nichttuntun
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Postby nichttuntun; Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:05 am Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Hi all,
I got a question for the owners of The Legend. Is there any online activation for the VST necessary? Or can I just simply type in the serial offline after installing and everything is running?

I already have DIVA but I am considering to buy The Legend too. Seems to be another kind of synth weapon. What do you think?

Thank you in advance. Cheers.
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EvilDragon
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Postby EvilDragon; Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:34 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Both online and offline activation is supported.
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nichttuntun
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Postby nichttuntun; Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:39 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Cool. Thank you.

What do you think. Is it a good addition when already having DIVA on board?
Armagibbon
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Postby Armagibbon; Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:58 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Diva aint a minimoog man. This is the closest to the real deal youre gonna find in software. Dont need a minimoog? Prolly dont need this.
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nichttuntun
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Postby nichttuntun; Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:15 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

I don't need one. Want one. :hihi:
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Postby jancivil; Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:19 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Examigan wrote:
BONES wrote:
v1o wrote:Nothing beats a vintage model. The reissue will always pale in the shadow of the original.

Really? Then how come every original MiniMoog owner didn't hesitate to ditch it when something more modern came along, like Prophet V? I started going to see bands in 1979 and I have never, ever seen a MiniMoog on stage. I used to see them second hand in shops but never in anyone's set-up. OTOH, people held onto their ARP Odysseys right through the 1980s. I have never in my life seen one for sale second-hand anywhere so I get why people might revere the Odyssey and Prophet V but not the MiniMoog. If it hadn't been first I really don't think anyone would have noticed it.

It is also quite obvious from their early synths that both Roland and Korg took ARP far more seriously than Moog. Just see how much a MiniKORG 700 looks like an ARP Soloist or how much Roland's SH-1000 looks like a Pro Soloist [...]

People liked the MiniMoog because it was portable, not because of the way it sounded or because of what they could do with it.


I would think many people will probably argue some of your points here.

Why bother, it's a lot of opinions which are stated as facts. And they're not really the wider held opinions as far as I've noticed. I would note the tendency towards argument by anecdote compounded by argument from ignorance ("I've never seen one on stage...") and strawman, and then the weasel words ('people held onto teh other ones') but whatever, my expectation of better given the source is... low.

But here's some other opinions. I never liked Korg or Roland synths. I did buy one of the latter once we're in "modern" (lol) times, a rack synth, XV-5080 or like that and it wasn't anything to write home about. So while we're to believe sure these entities agreed with "BONES", it has no moment here at all, certainly.

All of the above are really 'horses for courses'. You cannot replace an idiomatic MM sound by an ARP. It's useless to go into it more than that. That would seem to be obvious, but no.
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Postby Dasheesh; Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:53 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Armagibbon wrote:Diva aint a minimoog man. This is the closest to the real deal youre gonna find in software. Dont need a minimoog? Prolly dont need this.



The closet I’ve heard of is the NI version TBH. But personally I like the minimonsta, and then theres the creamware version, which some folks tell you aliases (and it does), but is the best version under highest freqs.
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Postby Cinebient; Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:22 pm Re: Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!

Dasheesh wrote:
Armagibbon wrote:Diva aint a minimoog man. This is the closest to the real deal youre gonna find in software. Dont need a minimoog? Prolly dont need this.



The closet I’ve heard of is the NI version TBH. But personally I like the minimonsta, and then theres the creamware version, which some folks tell you aliases (and it does), but is the best version under highest freqs.


The best is the new Moog app for me.
But they are all good.
As VST/AU i prefer The Legend.
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