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thejonsolo
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Postby thejonsolo; Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:07 pm Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

Odd that several things are missing from the Ultimate Bundle including Equinoxe and Sirius.
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Postby SciFiArtMan; Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:35 pm Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

thejonsolo wrote:Odd that several things are missing from the Ultimate Bundle including Equinoxe and Sirius.


Kind of defeats the "Ultimate" term, right!?
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Postby egbert101; Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:25 pm Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

thejonsolo wrote:Odd that several things are missing from the Ultimate Bundle including Equinoxe and Sirius.


Wow, that's really strange. Another eccentric developer. :hihi: That may actually stop me from buying their synths.
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Postby Stefken; Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:52 pm Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

thejonsolo wrote:Odd that several things are missing from the Ultimate Bundle including Equinoxe and Sirius.


Yes I noticed that too. Yet, the differences between the synths are not pronounced enough so I would not buy a pack with synths that are so much alike.

I'll stick with Tarkus and Equinox. Tarkus for the analog flavor and a specific character and Equinox for the JJ sound.
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Postby Chemik; Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:41 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

I love Sirius but I own them all except for Equinoxe and really like all of them. They all have a similar sound to echo what has been said but that sound they have works with what I like to write.
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Postby thejonsolo; Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:26 pm Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

I snagged the Synth Bundle and Equinoxe after playing with the demos a few days. There is enough interest in each to make it interesting. Sirius didn't strike me as much as Tarkus did, so I didn't get it...at least not yet.

Equinoxe comes with the Drum bundle and makes for really good value. The sounds are great...except Laser Harp. OPX Pro II has me covered there, heh. Though I try to avoid doing Jarre (been done to death) he was such a craftsman at sound that I gravitate towards those sounds despite my music being different.
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Postby Distorted Horizon; Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:38 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

Stefken wrote:the differences between the synths are not pronounced enough


I asked from the dev, what's the difference between all those synths. He answered.
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Postby Halonmusic; Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:35 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

Distorted Horizon wrote:
Stefken wrote:the differences between the synths are not pronounced enough


I asked from the dev, what's the difference between all those synths. He answered.


And ? :ud:
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Postby Distorted Horizon; Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:03 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

Halonmusic wrote:
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Stefken wrote:the differences between the synths are not pronounced enough


I asked from the dev, what's the difference between all those synths. He answered.


And ? :ud:


I was afraid that no one would ask :D

"The Equinoxe has slight modifications over the Ultimate as the sounds are more geared towards classic analog sounds produced by Jean Michel Jarre. The Sweep Filter on Ultimate has been replaced for Digital Reverb on Equinoxe and Equinoxe also has the addition of a 4-Pole Moog Filter.

Performer and P80 look similar but are quite different under the hood. Performer is more geared towards live playing as P80 is more sequencer oriented but both contain classic analog sounds.

Professional and Trance-Pro are identical apart from Trance-Pro Oscillators are not smoothed at the peaks and product a brighter sound which makes them sound more digital and grainer which is perfect for Trance sounds.

Tarkus and Sirius are identical apart from the Filters. Tarkus has a State Variable Filter and Sirius has a 4-Pole Moog Filter. Again, both synths have lots of classic analog sounds but Sirius sounds like a Mini Moog but using a Korg MS2000 block diagram for the sound structure."
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Postby chk071; Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:05 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

Halonmusic wrote:
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Stefken wrote:the differences between the synths are not pronounced enough


I asked from the dev, what's the difference between all those synths. He answered.


And ? :ud:

:lol:

It's a well kept secret. :)
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Postby egbert101; Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:10 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

Distorted Horizon wrote:
I was afraid that no one would ask :D

"The Equinoxe has slight modifications over the Ultimate as the sounds are more geared towards classic analog sounds produced by Jean Michel Jarre. The Sweep Filter on Ultimate has been replaced for Digital Reverb on Equinoxe and Equinoxe also has the addition of a 4-Pole Moog Filter.

Performer and P80 look similar but are quite different under the hood. Performer is more geared towards live playing as P80 is more sequencer oriented but both contain classic analog sounds.

Professional and Trance-Pro are identical apart from Trance-Pro Oscillators are not smoothed at the peaks and product a brighter sound which makes them sound more digital and grainer which is perfect for Trance sounds.

Tarkus and Sirius are identical apart from the Filters. Tarkus has a State Variable Filter and Sirius has a 4-Pole Moog Filter. Again, both synths have lots of classic analog sounds but Sirius sounds like a Mini Moog but using a Korg MS2000 block diagram for the sound structure."


Do those changes merit a new synth that must be bought? It does seem like the entire collection could be reduced to a few synths with additional features. I guess, he wants to make money by pushing similar synths with a few changes, but I don't think it's a particularly good way to go about it.

So, yeah, another group of synths that sound good, but a developer with an eccentric development path. Even though I love the sound, I just don't think they have a future.
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Postby Halonmusic; Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:17 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

chk071 wrote:
Halonmusic wrote:
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Stefken wrote:the differences between the synths are not pronounced enough


I asked from the dev, what's the difference between all those synths. He answered.


And ? :ud:

:lol:

It's a well kept secret. :)


:lol:

Distorted Horizon wrote:
Halonmusic wrote:
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Stefken wrote:the differences between the synths are not pronounced enough


I asked from the dev, what's the difference between all those synths. He answered.


And ? :ud:


I was afraid that no one would ask :D

"The Equinoxe has slight modifications over the Ultimate as the sounds are more geared towards classic analog sounds produced by Jean Michel Jarre. The Sweep Filter on Ultimate has been replaced for Digital Reverb on Equinoxe and Equinoxe also has the addition of a 4-Pole Moog Filter.

Performer and P80 look similar but are quite different under the hood. Performer is more geared towards live playing as P80 is more sequencer oriented but both contain classic analog sounds.

Professional and Trance-Pro are identical apart from Trance-Pro Oscillators are not smoothed at the peaks and product a brighter sound which makes them sound more digital and grainer which is perfect for Trance sounds.

Tarkus and Sirius are identical apart from the Filters. Tarkus has a State Variable Filter and Sirius has a 4-Pole Moog Filter. Again, both synths have lots of classic analog sounds but Sirius sounds like a Mini Moog but using a Korg MS2000 block diagram for the sound structure."


I see. Not a lot of difference but ok. So Sirius sounds more like a Moog than a MS2000 ? :?
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Postby Distorted Horizon; Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:37 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

egbert101 wrote:Do those changes merit a new synth that must be bought? It does seem like the entire collection could be reduced to a few synths with additional features. I guess, he wants to make money by pushing similar synths with a few changes, but I don't think it's a particularly good way to go about it


Wondering the same, why not just make one synth with switchable filters and settings?

But considering the price, I don't really give a crap if it's a new synth for different filter. Products are nice and price per synth is few cups of coffee so..
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Postby thejonsolo; Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:20 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

Distorted Horizon wrote:But considering the price, I don't really give a crap if it's a new synth for different filter. Products are nice and price per synth is few cups of coffee so..


That is where I was on it.
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Postby glokraw; Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:25 am Re: Thoughts On SuperWave Tarkus [Korg MS2000 Clone] and Sirius?

I think Superwave was a family business, and part of the family
had problems, and the rest of the family is trying to make a comeback.
How this all plays out will depend on the skills remaining or gained
by those making the 'comeback'. Hopefully new products will be released
based on new tech and knowledge. The many instruments can almost
be considered extra soundsets at good prices.

I like P8 better than the commercial demos, P8 seems to have more
bass and richer mids, and a better use of reverb, maybe it was a better sound design
environment, or had better preset creators, but it's a fine sounding synth.
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