KVR Audio

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:02 pm

zenophilix wrote:
Spencer Maddox wrote:
tonedef71 wrote:
tooneba wrote:Revival of Sonar
That should prompt another thread: which company should take over and resurrect Sonar in 2018?
Given the Windows Only aspect of Sonar, Microsoft themselves would seem like the ideal Suspect no?
They’ve been trying to appeal to professionals with Windows 10 and they even were scouting for audio programmers here a while back so it wouldn’t be too crazy. They certainly have more than enough money to pull of a purchase.
I don’t know, just speculating.
I'm having a really hard time arguing with this idea. If not Cakewalk, then something else eventually. Only a matter of time before Microsoft releases(read: buys) a DAW and pushes it like crazy. As far as Sonar goes, I'm pretty happy bumming around with Home Studio. Using Live Lite caused me to rely pretty heavily on plugins, so as long as I have those 64 tracks I'm good. Tempted to pick up Reason Essentials as well, unlimited tracks for a "lite" DAW is pretty rad.

MS have already bought and killed at least 2 Daws

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:04 pm

Which ones?

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:15 pm

Bars n Pipes and another one I forget the name of.

Ok, not DAWs but sequencers

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:15 pm

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/mic ... nar-out-of

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:03 pm

All this talk about sonar, when sonar was actually crap compared to the others, because it was over complicated and cumbersome to use.

I wasted 2 years trying to make good with sonar, then thankfully baled.

MS would be fools to buy it.

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:10 pm

kevvvvv wrote:All this talk about sonar, when sonar was actually crap compared to the others, because it was over complicated and cumbersome to use.

I wasted 2 years trying to make good with sonar, then thankfully baled.

MS would be fools to buy it.

Please. Please don't try to start another DAW war. There's no "best DAW," and nobody is going to have the same way of thinking you do. Everyone's got a different workflow, if everyone had an identical workflow there wouldn't even be a DAW market, we'd just all use Pro Tools or something.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:20 pm

TBH, i always found Sonar quite cumbersome too though. Not sure if it'd be REALLY wise for Microsoft to go down that path... i also doubt that a peitition would change anything about that. I mean, how many votes are they expecting to get? A couple of thousand max. 1 million have voted for the implementation of Google synchronisation in MS Outlook, and it's still not happening.

mumpcake · Post by **mumpcake** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:15 am

tooneba wrote:Revival of Sonar

According to MF, it will happen soon:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... ar&index=4

Available 03-13-2018

Or it could just be a goof

zenophilix · Post by **zenophilix** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:33 am

mumpcake wrote:
tooneba wrote:Revival of Sonar
According to MF, it will happen soon:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audi ... ar&index=4
Available 03-13-2018

Or it could just be a goof

I'm legitimately curious now. Even though it probably is a goof.

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:29 pm

zenophilx

Please. Please don't try to start another DAW war. There's no "best DAW," and nobody is going to have the same way of thinking you do. Everyone's got a different workflow, if everyone had an identical workflow there wouldn't even be a DAW market, we'd just all use Pro Tools or something.

Don't panic

All the same: Why did they go bust?

It sure wasn't through the pursuit of excellence, or happy users singing their praises.

mumpcake · Post by **mumpcake** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:21 am

While everyone is talking about MS buying Sonar, I think it would be more interesting if they bought Project 5.

Shuffle34 · Post by **Shuffle34** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:39 am

Sonar offered at some point to buy a lifetime updates for free. Maybe not enough money to get afterward. So they will relaunch and kill the lifetime updates.

By the way, I'm looking forward to Studio One 4. This is a fast growing DAW, and with good reasons.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:51 am

Shuffle34 wrote:Sonar offered at some point to buy a lifetime updates for free. Maybe not enough money to get afterward. So they will relaunch and kill the lifetime updates.

What do you mean by "killing the lifetime upgrades"? Isn't that dead already, now that they're bust?

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:21 pm

Im sick of the tiny pointless incremental upgrades from Steinberg, and charging the earth each time to do it.

Cubase doesn't need so many point upgrades, they were pointless in V5 , when Cubase 10 hits, I wish they'd take a back step and make a bigger more complete product, and iron out errors they have now.

Sick of Steinberg full stop tbh.

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:08 pm

It will be revealed that INTRANCER already refined every single DAW to perfection back in 2014 by utilising the deep features of MS Paint but a huge conspiracy has meant his hard work has covered up and ignored.

It is believed the conspiracy involves all the DAW manufacturers and hundreds of coders in a bid to deprive us of the the most perfect DAW versions.

The reason is believed to be they would no longer have upgrades to charge for, resulting in loss of revenue and the collapse of the DAW market.

The other cited reason being that the proposals INTRANCER has spent the last decades working on for many minutes each day are turd.

Some believe he was the mastermind behind Babya Logic and DubTurbo.

Predictions for 2018 DAW Market