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captain lysergicacid
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Postby captain lysergicacid; Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:05 pm Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Hi!

I've searched before, but all i found was the wrong information and/or deadlinks.

My question is, is there a VST (in my case mac vst for ableton) where the VST puts the right midi into a midi track?

For example, i click C Minor, and it puts C minor in the midi editor?
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Postby EvilDragon; Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:21 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

That is something that is supposed to be a DAW feature, not something a plugin can do. Plugin could only output notes but you'd have to record that in realtime.
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Postby ThomasHelzle; Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:39 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... 933-Scaler
Supports drag and drop into the DAW.

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Postby EvilDragon; Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:41 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Yeah only d&d would work, but not a single click.
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Postby Pytchblend; Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:45 am Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Chordspace (not Chordspace Playa) - http://www.chordspace.com/ChordSpaceindex.htm
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Postby captain lysergicacid; Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:44 am Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Hi!
Thanks everybody!

I have found exactly what i was looking for:
http://www.mucoder.net/en/tonespace/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R85tHygqKq0

A great VST for FREE(!)

It helps me a charme with my new launchpad:
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Postby dangayle; Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:32 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Can't you do that with a combination of Ableton's Chord and Scale devices?
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Postby bharris22; Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:07 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Very interesting - the horizontal pads on the Launchpad all automatically trigger the corresponding chords in Tonespace? Did you need to do any special setup to get have Launchpad do this, or simply select Launchpad as the midi input device?
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Postby risome; Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:29 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

http://www.voltagedisciple.com
Patches for ACE,PREDATOR,SYNPLANT,SUB BOOM BASS2,PUNCH
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Postby captain lysergicacid; Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:04 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

bharris22 wrote:Very interesting - the horizontal pads on the Launchpad all automatically trigger the corresponding chords in Tonespace? Did you need to do any special setup to get have Launchpad do this, or simply select Launchpad as the midi input device?


You mean like, if i press the bottom left knob on my launchpad (midi note c) that it automatically plays e.g. C Major?

Just select midi at "Trigger", then whatever button i press on my launchpad, it will play the set up chord (major, minor, minor 7th, minor 6th, and so on ......)
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Postby Romantique Tp; Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:34 pm Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Cubase has this stuff built right into the piano roll/key editor, along with chord inversion, drop notes, and adding the highlighted notes to the chord track, which has a ton of different uses including scale correction and arpeggiation.
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Postby bharris22; Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:48 am Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

captain lysergicacid wrote:
bharris22 wrote:Very interesting - the horizontal pads on the Launchpad all automatically trigger the corresponding chords in Tonespace? Did you need to do any special setup to get have Launchpad do this, or simply select Launchpad as the midi input device?


You mean like, if i press the bottom left knob on my launchpad (midi note c) that it automatically plays e.g. C Major?

Just select midi at "Trigger", then whatever button i press on my launchpad, it will play the set up chord (major, minor, minor 7th, minor 6th, and so on ......)


That is what I mean, but when I press the leftmost button in the next row up (i.e., the leftmost button in the seventh row down), I don't get a C. I would love it if each row could repeat, such that the first seven buttons in each row of the Launchpad would simply match the chords shown in each row of the Tonespace screenshot above. If you can get yours to do this, would you mind helping me?

Thanks!
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Postby Trancit; Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:20 am Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Romantique Tp wrote:Cubase has this stuff built right into the piano roll/key editor, along with chord inversion, drop notes, and adding the highlighted notes to the chord track, which has a ton of different uses including scale correction and arpeggiation.


As has Waveform 9...
I don´t know the implementation in Cubase, but in Waveform tracks can listen to each other or the chord track and follow changes in the chord progression...

Very nice implementation, which is quite useable and comes often in handy
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Postby captain lysergicacid; Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:36 am Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

bharris22 wrote:
captain lysergicacid wrote:
bharris22 wrote:Very interesting - the horizontal pads on the Launchpad all automatically trigger the corresponding chords in Tonespace? Did you need to do any special setup to get have Launchpad do this, or simply select Launchpad as the midi input device?


You mean like, if i press the bottom left knob on my launchpad (midi note c) that it automatically plays e.g. C Major?

Just select midi at "Trigger", then whatever button i press on my launchpad, it will play the set up chord (major, minor, minor 7th, minor 6th, and so on ......)


That is what I mean, but when I press the leftmost button in the next row up (i.e., the leftmost button in the seventh row down), I don't get a C. I would love it if each row could repeat, such that the first seven buttons in each row of the Launchpad would simply match the chords shown in each row of the Tonespace screenshot above. If you can get yours to do this, would you mind helping me?

Thanks!


Eeeehm... so, let me get this straight one more time:

My setup is as following:
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So from left to right:
1 - C ; 2 - C# ; 3 - D ; 4 - D# ; 5 - E
Then one row up:
6 - F ; 7 - F# ; 8 - G

... and so on, and so on

So, if i have set up Major, and i will press button one it will play C major, if i press button 6, it will play F Major


And you want to arrange it like that:
Image

So, if i set up major, and press button one, it will play C major.
If i press the left button on top of button one, it will play C major, but one octave higher..


Right?


To be honest, i have no idea.. I am very new to this whole DAW / Launchpad thing...

But my guess would be MIDI Mapping..

I know there are other scripts you can use for the launchpad as well.. e.g. this one (Push script for the launchpad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIidvnGvZZY

Search for Midi mapping (or maybe this is wrong, then search for scripting or something like that)

But unfortunately i have absolutely no idea how to rearrange the midi notes
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Postby bharris22; Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:18 am Re: Is there a VST that puts the MIDI of Chords into ableton?

Thank you very much for your help. I actually figured out how to do what I was describing with J74 Iso Controllers (https://fabriziopoce.com/isocontrollers.html), which permits a large variety of Launchpad setups for DAWs other than Ableton (Ableton is included as well, though). Between J74 and Tonespace, I can now easily trigger individual chords with one push of a button in any selected key :).
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