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Yolando
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Postby Yolando; Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:57 pm Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Hi guys, a total beginner here.

Recently, I am interested in creating orchestral music like Two Steps from Hell, Thomas Bergersen (I think both are the same guy lol). So I searched for instrumental library like violin, piano, you know, orchestra instrument.

I saw some good sample library but that cost a lot and usually have a big size in disk. Soundfont are great, little in size but doesn't give me much control like adsr stuff. I am not yet found any good VST/plugin for this problem. Maybe I should search for presets perhaps?

Anyway, what would you recommend for little disk space but gave much control and also quite cheap? It's okay if it's a bit expensive, I could save some of my money.

Thanks before and have a nice day guys.
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Michael L
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Postby Michael L; Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:06 pm Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Versilian Chamber Orchestra has several versions: Free/Standard $99/Pro $229. I have the Pro, and the variety of instruments (solo/ensembles) and articulations is outstanding. Pro can run in Kontakt Player.
http://vis.versilstudios.net/vsco-2.html
Bigcat made free VST and Kontakt instruments using the Versilian Free version:
http://bigcatinstruments.blogspot.com.au
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Postby bigcat1969; Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:04 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Thanks for the mention! Note that I recently redid the VST version to make it compatible with VST3 and to work better with Macs. It is also called the Sketching Orchestra now because of a mess with a company called VSCO. Its the same just different name.
http://bigcatinstruments.blogspot.com/2 ... mpler.html

Virtual Playing Orchestra seems like a nice amalgamation of the various free orchestral samples into a good sfz orchestra including VSCO2 and Sonatina.
http://virtualplaying.com/

Definitely get Sforzando to play SFZ libraries.
https://www.plogue.com/products/sforzando/

Nice free (or low cost donation) SFZ pianos
http://www.productionvoices.com/estate- ... sforzando/
http://vstbuzz.com/freebies/piano-in-162/

VST Buzz has some nice freebies including my VST version of the Sonatina Orchestra
http://vstbuzz.com/freebies/sonatina-sy ... orchestra/
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Postby zenophilix; Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:41 pm Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Sonivox Orchestral Collection is a nice starting point. I've seen it on sale for $99.
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Postby davidstiles; Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:14 pm Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Yolando wrote:Hi guys, a total beginner here.

Recently, I am interested in creating orchestral music like Two Steps from Hell, Thomas Bergersen (I think both are the same guy lol). So I searched for instrumental library like violin, piano, you know, orchestra instrument.

I saw some good sample library but that cost a lot and usually have a big size in disk. Soundfont are great, little in size but doesn't give me much control like adsr stuff. I am not yet found any good VST/plugin for this problem. Maybe I should search for presets perhaps?

Anyway, what would you recommend for little disk space but gave much control and also quite cheap? It's okay if it's a bit expensive, I could save some of my money.

Thanks before and have a nice day guys.


That's going to be tough for cheap. Maybe an all-in-one package like Spitfire's Albion One or something from ProjectSAM would be best for you.

Also, if you are a beginner, you might benefit from my e-book (if you'll pardon the sales pitch). It covers sample libraries in some detail. Here's the link: https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Dig ... 079D75SPD/
Winstontaneous
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Postby Winstontaneous; Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:46 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Pencil, sharpener, staff paper, and a big eraser! J/K, welcome to KVR!
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Postby Cinebient; Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:20 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

I like The Orchestra which has only about 7GB but the engine is really good and versatile to get you started very fast. But it‘s not cheap at all sadly.
Even the whole Logic costs just the half and would cover you here very well now.
There is a update coming soon too.
It also can tax the cpu quite heavy.
So maybe you got already some to start with in your DAW of choice?
Also KVR isn‘t the best place for sample libraries :D
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Postby Cinebient; Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:23 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

What about a 5 dollar goodie from Spitfire.
But full Kontakt is required:
https://www.spitfireaudio.com/shop/a-z/labs/
bigcat1969
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Postby bigcat1969; Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:58 pm Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

No offense to fans, but just make sure to listen closely to the demos of The Orchestra before you jump in. It is cleverly scripted to create a very certain kind of soundtrack music, but the samples aren't that great judging by the demos.

I actually did a really low rent version with arps, chords, chord progressions and orchestral sections and first chairs for Kontakt. Obviously it can't do as much and is much less pretty, I'm just saying be careful about paying for the 'concept' instead of high quality sounds at those prices.
http://bigcatinstruments.blogspot.com/2 ... estra.html

Trust me Berlin Inspire has top notch pro sounds for exactly the same price as the Orchestra's mid-tier samples.
http://www.orchestraltools.com/librarie ... nspire.php
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Postby jabe; Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:40 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Don't know where your limit is for "cheap", but Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 is worth a look.

Around £120 UK or 150?USD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI2GuJpogGk

Sound examples here:
https://www.garritan.com/products/personal-orchestra-5/
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9, 32&64, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.
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ATS
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Postby ATS; Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:44 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

I just got IKs Total Studio Max for $300. If you can find it for that price I think that is a great starting kit for Orchestral and more. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... e-download

it's back up to normal price now but I am sure eventually it will come back down.
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Postby zenophilix; Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:16 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

jabe wrote:Don't know where your limit is for "cheap", but Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 is worth a look.

Around £120 UK or 150?USD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI2GuJpogGk

Sound examples here:
https://www.garritan.com/products/personal-orchestra-5/

+1 for Garritan. Very nearly bought it myself. :hihi:
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Postby hodshonf; Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:49 pm Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

VSL SE Vol. 1
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Michael Picher
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Postby Michael Picher; Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:23 pm Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

GPO is a great starting point! In fact I still use some of the instruments, specifically the woodwinds, in tandem with my bigger libraries.
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Postby generaldiomedes; Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:57 am Re: Tools recommendation for beginner in orchestral music?

Yolando wrote:Hi guys, a total beginner here.

Recently, I am interested in creating orchestral music like Two Steps from Hell, Thomas Bergersen (I think both are the same guy lol). So I searched for instrumental library like violin, piano, you know, orchestra instrument


You are going to need a lot more than orchestral instruments to make music like Two Steps from Hell.

Keep Forest makes a great free sample pack with some excellent hits, risers, downers, drones, strikes, pulses, booms, etc. Really this is the stuff that separates cinematic from classical.

http://keep-forest.com/product-detail-free.html
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