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cryophonik
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5255 posts since 6 Sep, 2006, from Elk Grove, CA
sfd wrote:Becase that was the benefits of being singed in the good old days.


Not sure if that was a typo, or intentional :lol:
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thecontrolcentre
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22878 posts since 27 Jul, 2005, from the wilds of wanny

Postby thecontrolcentre; Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:05 pm Re: The new music bizz is all about sucking money out of DIY artists

herodotus wrote:
vurt wrote:i remember back before software, when guitars, keyboards and drums where all free :cry:
great days!


Funny, I don't remember that at all.

In fact, I seem to recall working weekends as a kid and signing over my checks to the local drum shop.

The UK must be a really different place.

:o

:hihi:

In the 80s I got a government grant to buy a guitar amp, to help me get off benefits. I ended up on the Enterprise Allowance Scheme as a musician ... dole plus £10.
Robmobius
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3091 posts since 9 Sep, 2010, from A shit hole (Ireland).
No one owes anyone anything... Life is tough better get a helmet. :roll:
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herodotus
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5468 posts since 8 Dec, 2004, from The Twin Cities
I have never gotten a damn thing from the government.

:-x

Well, except for the down payment assistance on my house. Where I have my home studio. With my cheap but awesome microphones and 16 track interface and laptop with more cool audio stuff than I could have imagined possible in the 80s.

I guess I should stop bitching.

:hihi:
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jancivil
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15092 posts since 20 Oct, 2007, from No Location
gummint pays me to stay out the workforce

under the notion I could go postal
Dasheesh
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2640 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
Robmobius wrote:No one owes anyone anything... Life is tough better get a helmet. :roll:



I just wanted to say... ^^^ this is the correct answer.
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thecontrolcentre
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22878 posts since 27 Jul, 2005, from the wilds of wanny

Postby thecontrolcentre; Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:33 pm Re: The new music bizz is all about sucking money out of DIY artists

herodotus wrote:I have never gotten a damn thing from the government.

:-x

Well, except for the down payment assistance on my house. Where I have my home studio. With my cheap but awesome microphones and 16 track interface and laptop with more cool audio stuff than I could have imagined possible in the 80s.

I guess I should stop bitching.

:hihi:


Haha. Music gear was relatively expensive in the 80s. Having a four track and a microphone was a real luxury. There's never been a better time for musicians so far as equipment prices are concerned.
Dasheesh
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2640 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
I don't know why i am responding to this. I shouldn't even be here right now... but I'm going to do it anyway. It's about LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR. If you want a hit... a hit, by definition, "hits" the most people possible.. stupid, or not stupid. Try it, I dare you, because the "hit" makers are the ones with gold and the studios.
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jancivil
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15092 posts since 20 Oct, 2007, from No Location
Dasheesh wrote:
Robmobius wrote:No one owes anyone anything... Life is tough better get a helmet. :roll:


I just wanted to say... ^^^ this is the correct answer.

Tough guys, yeah. :party:
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donkey tugger
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4619 posts since 14 Mar, 2002, from the grimness of yorkshire
thecontrolcentre wrote:Enterprise Allowance Scheme as a musician ... dole plus £10.


And of course there was the other scheme - ET; 'Employment Training', or 'Extra Tenner' as it was more commonly known. :hihi:
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4damind
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4618 posts since 17 Aug, 2004, from Berlin, Germany
Zombie Queen wrote:
4damind wrote:To become a successful artist you must also learn to run a business, this means in most cases that you must learn how to sell a product and most important: you must have a great product.

This sounds very reasonable, but the fact of life, as far as I can see, is that product that actually sells is far from great. Check out on a radio.


A great product can also mean "fits well the genre" or it's so different that many people like it because.. it's different.
Most singers cannot really sing.. there are dozens of examples of very successful groups where the lead singer cannot sing very well.. but "perfection" is not so important to be successful. Maybe it's better to say "you must be different".

Anyway, most music is not good enough (=interesting enough) or sometimes the production quality is really bad.

Ok, there are some hints for a successful song ;) Many successful songs sharing the same or similar chord progressions. I remember some well known 80s producers like Stock/Aitken/Waterman (Kylie Minogue, Rick Astley, Bananarama, Dead Or Alife,... the list of known acts is very long). Yes, most of this songs sounding very similar but this stuff was commercially very successful.
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Aloysius
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21902 posts since 11 Aug, 2008, from a computer
When I was a lad, we used to gather around the fireplace with our hardware T-Pain Microphones and sing the olde classics like ''friday'' (by Rebecca Black). They were hard times but good times.
I didn't get where I am today.
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200 posts since 18 Mar, 2003, from Jacksonville, FL
Outside of those extremely rare discoveries like a Bieber on YT, most bands still are found the old-fashioned way. They do tons of live shows, build up a following with DIY releases and then outwork everyone. All so that when they "hit it" they can be borderline broke for the rest of their musical lives.
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Scotty
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1644 posts since 22 Dec, 2002
Try taking away the infrastructure that you depend on for a day and come back and tell us that you didn't get a damn thing from the government.

herodotus wrote:I have never gotten a damn thing from the government.
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26057 posts since 3 Sep, 2001, from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Scotty wrote:Try taking away the infrastructure that you depend on for a day and come back and tell us that you didn't get a damn thing from the government.

herodotus wrote:I have never gotten a damn thing from the government.


That would have been a lot cleverer if you hadnt selectively excised the part of his post where he refuted that statement himself.
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