KVR Audio

PatchAdamz · Post by **PatchAdamz** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:09 am

Finally got a chance to muti-track some sounds together.
An old school electronic experiment.
100% Tal-Mod:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... -tal-mod-2

fluffy_little_something · Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:24 am

Regarding the timing problems: I noticed that in some synths (Hybrid 3 for instance, if I remember correctly) the LFO timing varies with the sampling frequency used in the DAW. When I changed the sampling frequency, the vibrato I had on one of my patches was way too fast all of a sudden.
Maybe that also happens in Mod...

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:02 pm

PatchAdamz wrote:Finally got a chance to muti-track some sounds together.
An old school electronic experiment.
100% Tal-Mod:

https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... -tal-mod-2

So beautiful...

Julien Unison · Post by **Julien Unison** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:14 pm

Yeah PatchAdamz this track is a beauty !

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:36 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Regarding the timing problems: I noticed that in some synths (Hybrid 3 for instance, if I remember correctly) the LFO timing varies with the sampling frequency used in the DAW. When I changed the sampling frequency, the vibrato I had on one of my patches was way too fast all of a sudden.
Maybe that also happens in Mod...

THat could be explanation ,atm dotted /triplets are now correct but playing twice as fast as indicated ( latest beta ) .
In previous beta's triplets and dotted where totally mixed up, which is still the case with tal sampler and tal bassline .
In talsampler/bassline dotted are played as triplets / twice as fast and vice versa , I already sended a bug report ..

bite_me · Post by **bite_me** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:35 pm

Every update make my Bitwig tracks with Talmod loaded silent sometimes

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So I have to delete the Synth from the track and load it in again (if I was lucky enough to save my preset).
Win7 x64, Bitwig 2.2

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:06 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Regarding the timing problems: I noticed that in some synths (Hybrid 3 for instance, if I remember correctly) the LFO timing varies with the sampling frequency used in the DAW. When I changed the sampling frequency, the vibrato I had on one of my patches was way too fast all of a sudden.
Maybe that also happens in Mod...
THat could be explanation ,atm dotted /triplets are now correct but playing twice as fast as indicated ( latest beta ) .
In previous beta's triplets and dotted where totally mixed up, which is still the case with tal sampler and tal bassline .
In talsampler/bassline dotted are played as triplets / twice as fast and vice versa , I already sended a bug report ..

It's very annoying when time-based parameters of a plugin change when the project sample rate changes. This is a really bad situation and something that every dev should test out extensively. I can't tell you how many plugins I have that I can't use in anything but 44.1k because the timing changes. This also includes playing back samples/wavetables etc at the same "pitch" regardless of project sample rate.

I emplore all devs to thoroughly test in all sample rates to ensure consistency. Some of us do not stick to 44.1k.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:43 pm

Hello to all,

Do you all send carefully your bug reports to Patrick ? And explaining perfectly when it occurs and how ?

For the record it is here:
https://tal-software.com/support/index

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:47 pm

I found something odd .
When amp decay is set to full , the shape knob of the decay is just affecting the length and not the actual shape ( exponential, linear , log ) , seems like a cheap workaround
In the screenshots you see 3 samples , with the decay set to full (no sustain /release )
The shape knob fully counterclockwise , middle and full right ...this woul be .exp/linear/log
However they all appear to be linear ., iow the shpae knob only affects lengths ...

This happens when the decay is above 0.55 ..
It's verry unatural behaviour , long decays become linear ..when shape is set to exp (fully left )
I assume , a square function is aplied to the envelope's output when the decay length increases .
Which would explain the linear behaviour

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:56 pm

Seems to be a lot of bugs in this. Think i'll wait for the next update(s)

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:29 am

Halonmusic wrote:Seems to be a lot of bugs in this. Think i'll wait for the next update(s)

Just some minor ones

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:39 am

it would be perfect to be able to change the effect order ...

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:33 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Halonmusic wrote:Seems to be a lot of bugs in this. Think i'll wait for the next update(s)
Just some minor ones

Good

hivkorn · Post by **hivkorn** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:24 pm

everys synths are made with TAL Mod and build in fx
Drums is RMV + Trash 2

https://soundcloud.com/user-319698205/v ... kunk-sheol

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:20 pm

THe envelope linear bug applies to all stages above a certain treshold , no matter the shape ...they are all linear
Here attack/decay set to 0.60 , with 3 different positions