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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Tue May 15, 2018 3:13 am Waves Plugins - Really bad graphical response?

Am I the only one? Bad with my trackpad (OSX), and feels worse with my Wacom pen.

Turning knobs/moving sliders doesn't correlate 1:1 with the values displayed i.e it's possible to change the written values quite a lot without the knob/slider registering any movement. Also, with tiny movements, the mouse acceleration(?) can cause huge shifts in settings. Movement is so jerky

It just seems like there is such a disconnect when making adjustments, and with a Wacom there is a need to travel much further for the same adjustments

Is this just a bug?
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Tue May 15, 2018 11:30 pm Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Ok! Just me :tu:
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Postby Klinke1; Wed May 16, 2018 5:09 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

It's not a bug and you are not alone.
It's like it is..it has advantages and disadvantages and they wanted it like that.

The knob response can get worse with an "energy-saving" pc-setting. Try max-power. (realistic test-environment)
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Wed May 16, 2018 5:53 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Klinke1 wrote:It's not a bug and you are not alone.
It's like it is..it has advantages and disadvantages and they wanted it like that.

The knob response can get worse with an "energy-saving" pc-setting. Try max-power. (realistic test-environment)


Thanks!

Not on pc, so cannot check other settings.

What would you say are the advantages?
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Postby Klinke1; Wed May 16, 2018 6:00 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

:) It has fine mouse-response when you dial slow and has some kind of acceleration when dialed fast .. So you may not need to press a second button for fine-tuning. ..i think that's what they thought.

95% of vst-knobs have no acceleration and we/i are used to it. So we like it more.
Humans are Gewöhnungstiere. (we don't like to step out of our habitat)

..imo
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Postby Stanoli; Wed May 16, 2018 6:57 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Klinke1 wrote::)
Humans are Gewöhnungstiere. (we don't like to step out of our habitat)

..imo


Gewohnheitstiere :ud:
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Wed May 16, 2018 7:47 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Klinke1 wrote::) It has fine mouse-response when you dial slow and has some kind of acceleration when dialed fast .. So you may not need to press a second button for fine-tuning. ..i think that's what they thought.

95% of vst-knobs have no acceleration and we/i are used to it. So we like it more.
Humans are Gewöhnungstiere. (we don't like to step out of our habitat)

..imo


I should have been clearer: I do understand what mouse acceleration is. it's just in this case, it seems to be too exaggerated. It's something that I'm sure I'd get used to. However, the issue that concerns me more is the disparity between actual movement of the knob, which does correlate with numerical change, and the actual graphical representation of the movement of the knob.
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Postby soulone82; Wed May 16, 2018 8:17 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:However, the issue that concerns me more is the disparity between actual movement of the knob, which does correlate with numerical change, and the actual graphical representation of the movement of the knob.


What did Waves support say?
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Postby Vortifex; Wed May 16, 2018 8:26 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Story of my life
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Wed May 16, 2018 8:33 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

soulone82 wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:However, the issue that concerns me more is the disparity between actual movement of the knob, which does correlate with numerical change, and the actual graphical representation of the movement of the knob.


What did Waves support say?


I don't think I mentioned having contacted them yet.
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Wed May 16, 2018 8:33 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Vortifex wrote:Story of my life


:wink:
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Postby soulone82; Wed May 16, 2018 9:04 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:I don't think I mentioned having contacted them yet.


Hence my post. :wink:
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Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Wed May 16, 2018 9:08 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

soulone82 wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:I don't think I mentioned having contacted them yet.


Hence my post. :wink:


I knew exactly what you meant. Did you read my first post?
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Postby soulone82; Wed May 16, 2018 9:17 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:Did you read my first post?


Of course. That´s why I think Waves should be made aware of your issues.
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Postby Aloysius; Wed May 16, 2018 9:27 am Re: Waves Plugins - Really bad knob response?

Edited title - edited post.
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