UltraAnalog seems underrated
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- KVRAF
- 2802 posts since 31 Aug, 2011
OK, so in case anyone would like to have a listen, heres one of the audios to back up what i said earlier.
(The other one is too long, i should cut that first.)
Material: Bassline from Die Roboter / The Robots
To show that im not unfairly representing DIVA i have added a second file (live tweaks) that demonstrates that you just cant 'get there' (not even remotely) no matter how much you tweak resonance, decay and EG amount.
minimoog 1.6 on the other hand is fairly close to the original, filter response is obviously a bit different but the rest is surprisingly similar, if the VCF had a bit more 'scream' in the resonance it would become hard to tell them apart.
Play-order as indicated by filename.
Download Here (32MB)
(The other one is too long, i should cut that first.)
Material: Bassline from Die Roboter / The Robots
To show that im not unfairly representing DIVA i have added a second file (live tweaks) that demonstrates that you just cant 'get there' (not even remotely) no matter how much you tweak resonance, decay and EG amount.
minimoog 1.6 on the other hand is fairly close to the original, filter response is obviously a bit different but the rest is surprisingly similar, if the VCF had a bit more 'scream' in the resonance it would become hard to tell them apart.
Play-order as indicated by filename.
Download Here (32MB)
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- KVRAF
- 15515 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I disagree, I'm saying it's not underrated, and people respond with "no, that's wrong." If you want to say "I agree, it's not underrated, but I like it", fine. Moreover, you really can't say much about the up-votes statistically. There are too few and there's far too much there to do any meaningful analysis. The comments do not paint an enthusiastic picture. Certainly not that it's some hidden underrated gem.Gamma-UT wrote:OK, let's have a look. Top-rated comment - Reddit being one of those sites where you can gauge such things – likes the sound but doesn't like the interface (it's in Ableton, what did you expect? Dancing unicorns? It's going to have the same knobs and buttons as everything else. I find the Ableton version easier to program than the plugin FWIW as it's easier to track the signal flow).ghettosynth wrote:wagtunes wrote: Here you go, this is a discussion of Ableton's Analog without the KVR hype. The naysayers/meh crowd far outweighs the handful of enthusiastic voices.
https://www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/c ... m-comments
I'd say it's a wash between "like it" and "ordinary", which is probably about the same as here once you actually go look at comments and consider what they're saying rather than use everything as an opportunity in prosecuting the definitions of words.
- KVRAF
- 4797 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
That there's the problem: some 'uns underrated UA 'cuz they be listen to it in a DAW wit bad sound!el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:This story doesn't get any further until we've established just which is "the DAW with the best sound"
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Michael L wrote:That there's the problem: some 'uns underrated UA 'cuz they be listen to it in a DAW wit bad sound!el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:This story doesn't get any further until we've established just which is "the DAW with the best sound"
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- KVRAF
- 7745 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
I only installed it (UA2) to see if it worked. One I think is underrated (and I demoed once) is Surge. I wish someone would develop it further.ghettosynth wrote:I disagree, I'm saying it's not underrated, and people respond with "no, that's wrong." If you want to say "I agree, it's not underrated, but I like it", fine. Moreover, you really can't say much about the up-votes statistically. There are too few and there's far too much there to do any meaningful analysis. The comments do not paint an enthusiastic picture. Certainly not that it's some hidden underrated gem.Gamma-UT wrote:OK, let's have a look. Top-rated comment - Reddit being one of those sites where you can gauge such things – likes the sound but doesn't like the interface (it's in Ableton, what did you expect? Dancing unicorns? It's going to have the same knobs and buttons as everything else. I find the Ableton version easier to program than the plugin FWIW as it's easier to track the signal flow).ghettosynth wrote:wagtunes wrote: Here you go, this is a discussion of Ableton's Analog without the KVR hype. The naysayers/meh crowd far outweighs the handful of enthusiastic voices.
https://www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/c ... m-comments
I'd say it's a wash between "like it" and "ordinary", which is probably about the same as here once you actually go look at comments and consider what they're saying rather than use everything as an opportunity in prosecuting the definitions of words.
- KVRAF
- 4797 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Two other UA libraries that are quite good are Cinematheque and Abstractions. They show how sound design skills improve over time, just like software technology does.aMUSEd wrote:Or finding that people are making it sound good - which they are and would be the reason for buying moreghettosynth wrote: I'm not surprised that people buy patches for it, they're probably hoping that someone can make it sound good, LOL!
Now, if someone 'committed' to duplicate a distinctive UA patch like Stockhausen Subway (in the Factory/Ambient bank) using a newer synth that sounds better, it would be real evidence to support the argument that UA is not underrated....
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- KVRAF
- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Actually I dislike only one thing with Ultra Analog: that‘s how it‘s shown in my Logic Channel Strip...
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https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35271 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Yes I have both of those, also Starlight is good and parts of Richard Devine's Signature bankMichael L wrote:Two other UA libraries that are quite good are Cinematheque and Abstractions. They show how sound design skills improve over time, just like software technology does.aMUSEd wrote:Or finding that people are making it sound good - which they are and would be the reason for buying moreghettosynth wrote: I'm not surprised that people buy patches for it, they're probably hoping that someone can make it sound good, LOL!
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
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- 3882 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
Also happens in Reapermartinjuenke wrote:Actually I dislike only one thing with Ultra Analog: that‘s how it‘s shown in my Logic Channel Strip...
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
. . . and this is exactly why I don't hang in these conversations in "instruments" forumwagtunes wrote:@Ghetto
You're wasting your breath. The fanbois don't understand facts or logic.
I don't need "facts" when making music - "logic" is in the eye of the beholder - "fanboi" vs hip musician is not a binary choice - less is(many times) more
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- KVRAF
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
I guess I’m more in the “it’s ok” camp. It does have its own character though and if You ever have a moment with a synth where you really gel with it then it does make it seem underrated. Happens with me every once in a while with just about any random synth.
As far as underrated synths, I still think Corona is one of the most underrated.
As far as underrated synths, I still think Corona is one of the most underrated.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35271 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
AgreedMister Natural wrote:. . . and this is exactly why I don't hang in these conversations in "instruments" forumwagtunes wrote:@Ghetto
You're wasting your breath. The fanbois don't understand facts or logic.
I don't need "facts" when making music - "logic" is in the eye of the beholder - "fanboi" vs hip musician is not a binary choice - less is(many times) more
peace
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- KVRAF
- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Just my opinion, but, i find all the discoDSP synths quite underwhelming.Echoes in the Attic wrote: As far as underrated synths, I still think Corona is one of the most underrated.
- KVRAF
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- 35271 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I guess sometimes it's possible to overrate being underratedchk071 wrote:Just my opinion, but, i find all the discoDSP synths quite underwhelming.Echoes in the Attic wrote: As far as underrated synths, I still think Corona is one of the most underrated.