Any tools for manipulating single cycle wavs for use elsewhere?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 697 posts since 2 Apr, 2004 from London
Last night, I came across this little Synthmaker tool, that allows for blending between three single cycles to create new ones, https://www.kvraudio.com/product/single ... -d-j-music .
I have loads of wavetables and single cycles I've created in Serum, using maths, resampling, and the fft editor, so I thought I might use this to get some extra mileage out of the material I'd already created. Unfortunately, being Synthmaker, it saves the cycles as text files. Also, if I remember correctly Synthmaker OSMs like this only use 256 samples. Now, I have the resources to convert to 256 samples from Serum's 2048 and also tools to convert wavs to text and vice versa, but this is kinda long winded. So if anybody knows of similar tools, preferably freeware, that allow for this kind of functionality and possibly more, but in more appropriate formats, I'd being interested in hearing about them.
I have loads of wavetables and single cycles I've created in Serum, using maths, resampling, and the fft editor, so I thought I might use this to get some extra mileage out of the material I'd already created. Unfortunately, being Synthmaker, it saves the cycles as text files. Also, if I remember correctly Synthmaker OSMs like this only use 256 samples. Now, I have the resources to convert to 256 samples from Serum's 2048 and also tools to convert wavs to text and vice versa, but this is kinda long winded. So if anybody knows of similar tools, preferably freeware, that allow for this kind of functionality and possibly more, but in more appropriate formats, I'd being interested in hearing about them.
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- KVRian
- 1090 posts since 6 May, 2010 from Munich, Germany
yemski wrote:Last night, I came across this little Synthmaker tool, that allows for blending between three single cycles to create new ones, https://www.kvraudio.com/product/single ... -d-j-music .
I have loads of wavetables and single cycles I've created in Serum, using maths, resampling, and the fft editor, so I thought I might use this to get some extra mileage out of the material I'd already created. Unfortunately, being Synthmaker, it saves the cycles as text files. Also, if I remember correctly Synthmaker OSMs like this only use 256 samples. Now, I have the resources to convert to 256 samples from Serum's 2048 and also tools to convert wavs to text and vice versa, but this is kinda long winded. So if anybody knows of similar tools, preferably freeware, that allow for this kind of functionality and possibly more, but in more appropriate formats, I'd being interested in hearing about them.
https://www.facebook.com/Audioterm/
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ilit=kterm
Owner of the FB site of Audioterm
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- KVRian
- 659 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 697 posts since 2 Apr, 2004 from London
I know Audioterm already. But thanks for the suggestion. As far as I know it's for creating wavetables from single cycles, whereas I'm looking for something that creates new single cycles by combining one or more single cycles, rather than whole tables. Does it do this too?PietW. wrote:yemski wrote:Last night, I came across this little Synthmaker tool, that allows for blending between three single cycles to create new ones, https://www.kvraudio.com/product/single ... -d-j-music .
I have loads of wavetables and single cycles I've created in Serum, using maths, resampling, and the fft editor, so I thought I might use this to get some extra mileage out of the material I'd already created. Unfortunately, being Synthmaker, it saves the cycles as text files. Also, if I remember correctly Synthmaker OSMs like this only use 256 samples. Now, I have the resources to convert to 256 samples from Serum's 2048 and also tools to convert wavs to text and vice versa, but this is kinda long winded. So if anybody knows of similar tools, preferably freeware, that allow for this kind of functionality and possibly more, but in more appropriate formats, I'd being interested in hearing about them.
https://www.facebook.com/Audioterm/
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ilit=kterm
Musicmaker: "I'm playing all the right notes, but not neccesarily in the right order" Eric Morecame : Comedy Bhoddisatva
- KVRian
- 642 posts since 22 Jun, 2018
If you just want to blend between two or more single cycle waves, couldn't you just use a simple wave editor like Audacity or Waveosaur? Just load the waves you want into the editor on different tracks, make sure the result isn't clipping and export the new wave. This could probably even be automated for batch processing somehow.
If you want to mess with your waves in some more advanced ways, you could also try something like Pure Data or Max, but that's probably a bit over the top.
If you want to mess with your waves in some more advanced ways, you could also try something like Pure Data or Max, but that's probably a bit over the top.
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- KVRian
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- 697 posts since 2 Apr, 2004 from London
Maybe blending was an incorrect use of terminology. I was under the impression that single cycle morpher was morphing rather than simply mixing. Also, if you can direct me to any Max, Pure Data app, or any other resources, that allow for manipulation of single cycle waves using FM or any other form of synthesis, I'd definitely be interested. As long as it has an interface designed more for someone used to the paradigm of programming a synth as opposed to coding. There's a lot you can do with Serum's editor already, but having something like the editor in Icarus, where you can apply synthesis effects to cycles or tables would be pretty awesome.Delta Sign wrote:If you just want to blend between two or more single cycle waves, couldn't you just use a simple wave editor like Audacity or Waveosaur? Just load the waves you want into the editor on different tracks, make sure the result isn't clipping and export the new wave. This could probably even be automated for batch processing somehow.
If you want to mess with your waves in some more advanced ways, you could also try something like Pure Data or Max, but that's probably a bit over the top.
Check it out here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSHO0IQTQc0
If there's there's anything like that in the aforementioned platforms, that would be pretty cool.
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- KVRian
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
ZynAdd used to have a stellar single cycle editor with export.
Some good samples for this arethe Architecture soundset which they allegedly created them via an additive custom engine of their own.
Some good samples for this arethe Architecture soundset which they allegedly created them via an additive custom engine of their own.
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- KVRian
- 646 posts since 22 Jun, 2003 from Germany
Do you maybe know where this program can be found?yemski wrote:Last night, I came across this little Synthmaker tool, that allows for blending between three single cycles to create new ones, https://www.kvraudio.com/product/single ... -d-j-music .
It does not seem to be on the developper site any more and the kvr link gives an error.
yemski wrote:I'm looking for something that creates new single cycles by combining one or more single cycles, rather than whole tables.
I would also like such a feature.yemski wrote:... having something like the editor in Icarus, where you can apply synthesis effects to cycles or tables would be pretty awesome.
I looked but coud not find where in the Icarus video several single cycle waves were combined to one single cycle wave.
Would you mind to tell where exactly it is described?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 697 posts since 2 Apr, 2004 from London
A bit of a misunderstanding there. I should have been more clear. What I meant was, that it would be great to have a standalone editor for WTs and single cycles that did all this, rather than saying Icarus did the same thing as single cycle morpher.teacue wrote:Do you maybe know where this program can be found?yemski wrote:Last night, I came across this little Synthmaker tool, that allows for blending between three single cycles to create new ones, https://www.kvraudio.com/product/single ... -d-j-music .
It does not seem to be on the developper site any more and the kvr link gives an error.
You know what? I can't remember. I'll have to root through my history and find it.
yemski wrote:I'm looking for something that creates new single cycles by combining one or more single cycles, rather than whole tables.I would also like such a feature.yemski wrote:... having something like the editor in Icarus, where you can apply synthesis effects to cycles or tables would be pretty awesome.
I looked but coud not find where in the Icarus video several single cycle waves were combined to one single cycle wave.
Would you mind to tell where exactly it is described?
Musicmaker: "I'm playing all the right notes, but not neccesarily in the right order" Eric Morecame : Comedy Bhoddisatva
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 697 posts since 2 Apr, 2004 from London
yemski wrote:A bit of a misunderstanding there. I should have been more clear. What I meant was, that it would be great to have a standalone editor for WTs and single cycles that did all this, rather than saying Icarus did the same thing as single cycle morpher.teacue wrote:You know what? I can't remember. I'll have to root through my history and find it.yemski wrote:Last night, I came across this little Synthmaker tool, that allows for blending between three single cycles to create new ones, https://www.kvraudio.com/product/single ... -d-j-music .
Do you maybe know where this program can be found?
It does not seem to be on the developper site any more and the kvr link gives an error.
yemski wrote:I'm looking for something that creates new single cycles by combining one or more single cycles, rather than whole tables.I would also like such a feature.yemski wrote:... having something like the editor in Icarus, where you can apply synthesis effects to cycles or tables would be pretty awesome.
I looked but coud not find where in the Icarus video several single cycle waves were combined to one single cycle wave.
Would you mind to tell where exactly it is described?
Musicmaker: "I'm playing all the right notes, but not neccesarily in the right order" Eric Morecame : Comedy Bhoddisatva
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- 28063 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
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- KVRian
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- 697 posts since 2 Apr, 2004 from London
Good question. I don't know. I've just downloaded the demo and will look at the manual some time soon.Urs wrote:Can Icarus save wavetables to .wav files like Serum?
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- KVRAF
- 6895 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs
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- KVRian
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- 697 posts since 2 Apr, 2004 from London
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- KVRAF
- 6895 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs
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