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Postby jancivil; Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:43 am Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

Satie went back to school to study counterpoint, ca. 1900, the 'oughts' iirc. 1910? And his music changed a bit.

1912:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WWBcNhpKSU

I heard this in a Youtube post where someone took it at tempo. On an electric keyboard, or was it a controller and a software instrument. No one takes Satie 'at tempo', pretty much every rendition is very precious with a lot of rubato and 'feeling'. It sounded like Zappa like that (like the second time I'd even heard it) so I went and did this, consciously doing the marimbas and xylophone in the style. Quite a bit of it is straight, only orchestrated. There are 2 or 3 bars here that aren't Satie's though. But this is kind of the new Satie after going back to music school. The time signature changes are in league with Stravinsky at the time.

I don't tend to think of E.S. as naive, he seems to have been genuinely eccentric or a bit :nutter:. I say this out of reading a bit about his religious fervor. Which is where Le fils originates. the play by Peladan...
The walking his lobster around downtown on a leash is a _bit_ odd. But one may cultivate an image, & that's pretty avant-garde. :)
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Postby vurt; Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:57 am Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

who hasn't walked a lobster these days?
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Postby jancivil; Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:30 pm Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

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Postby Harry_HH; Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:57 pm Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

All the the above Satie adaptations/arrangements are brilliant. :hyper:
BTW, are you (jancivil) publishing under the name "Civil"?


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Postby jancivil; Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:47 pm Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

Pretty much.

Thanks.
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Postby jancivil; Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:12 pm Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

Here's where I lost the plot, re Le fils:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEWWeQG ... T&index=36

This is the 'Theme' portion of Act II, The Grand Hall. The 'Sections 1 thru 3' is Prelude, Theme; Prelude.
There is a middle section where it has nothing to do with Satie, and the section before that is quite a stretch.

But at this point it's like using the chord changes from something as a jazz musician to do this other thing. Except for the piano solo, which has nothing to do with anything in the original. By then I knew I was out of there.

The following section, in the original this kind of thing keeps going but I found an ending of what I was doing, which is a type of reharmonization.

It is a really weird piece, by someone that wasn't quite right in the head. :tu:
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Postby experimental.crow; Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:36 pm Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

it's been said that timing is everything ...
yours is impeccable ...
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Postby nordickvr; Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:39 pm Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

Just listened to Nocturne 3.
There’s quite a lot going on there.
Mallets blend sounds especially great.
Neat orchestration.

Ok, my english still sucks but,
let’s summarize, I really enjoyed it.
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Postby jancivil; Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:07 am Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

experimental.crow wrote:it's been said that timing is everything ...
yours is impeccable ...

Thank you muchly.

I try. I revisited "Fantasy" a couple of times, there is still one thing I want to do differently but I don't have the files to do it properly.
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Postby jancivil; Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:08 am Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

nordickvr wrote:Just listened to Nocturne 3.
There’s quite a lot going on there.
Mallets blend sounds especially great.
Neat orchestration.

Ok, my english still sucks but,
let’s summarize, I really enjoyed it.

Thanks!
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Postby seismic1; Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:11 pm Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

I only spotted the addition of "Fantasy" to this thread last night, and I'm really enjoying it. The solo piano was unexpected (at least for me), but expectation can be a prison , if left to its own devices. The final section was my fave - some nice Jazz moves. I think I'll play "The Dangerous Kitchen" now I'm in the mood.

Good work :)
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Postby jancivil; Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:52 am Re: Satie - Le fils des étoiles

My old musical partner-in-crime, a pianist, called it 'a real departure' for me. And likened it to Keith Jarrett.

It happened all of a sudden. The last section took some thought; the original is right weird.

Thanks for noticing.
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