Zappa - what a tight music arranger
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
replaced link to 'google images for bas relief'
https://www.google.com/search?q=bas+rel ... yrlZudM77M:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bas+rel ... yrlZudM77M:
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
https://youtu.be/c6fKl-huexE?t=2s
preferably click on the t=2s link as the fade-in obscures where <1> is and is a bit disorienting at first.
Full solo on Torture Never Stops @ Deutschland Halle which an edited version known as Rat Tomago (tomago is omelet in Japanese iirc) was presented on the album Sheik Yerbouti.
blistering heat
preferably click on the t=2s link as the fade-in obscures where <1> is and is a bit disorienting at first.
Full solo on Torture Never Stops @ Deutschland Halle which an edited version known as Rat Tomago (tomago is omelet in Japanese iirc) was presented on the album Sheik Yerbouti.
blistering heat
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
He used the same technique on Yo Mama.jancivil wrote:https://youtu.be/c6fKl-huexE?t=2s
preferably click on the t=2s link as the fade-in obscures where <1> is and is a bit disorienting at first.
Full solo on Torture Never Stops @ Deutschland Halle which an edited version known as Rat Tomago (tomago is omelet in Japanese iirc) was presented on the album Sheik Yerbouti.
blistering heat
https://youtu.be/U38_buPdNiI
I don't know the original source of the guitar solo, but its use in this context is just brilliant.
I admit to having stolen this technique on numerous occasions.
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
There is a full Yo Mama from the same show up.
You see what FZ wanted by the way he does the melody at the end of the solo, then the 'if you play the game, you will get beat' turnaround to the verse.
But on the album, he had Tommy Mars do all of this construction and new keyboard material to join more than one solo and all this. This Rat Tomago is just an ideal edit of the one solo in Torture Never Stops. Similar to the ideal version of Inca Roads using a foreshortened 1974 Helsinki solo on it. And there are a number of others, the 1982 Advance Romance solo on YCDTOSA Vol. 5 Disc 2 for one I can def recall.
was about to post that with a known edit point but looking for the unedited I found this, which is an insane solo.
Check out Wackerman's alien fills here. JFC. This should have ended up on the record instead.
https://youtu.be/FyalNgvrngw?t=18m5s
cued up, 18 m 5 s, use the link.
You see what FZ wanted by the way he does the melody at the end of the solo, then the 'if you play the game, you will get beat' turnaround to the verse.
But on the album, he had Tommy Mars do all of this construction and new keyboard material to join more than one solo and all this. This Rat Tomago is just an ideal edit of the one solo in Torture Never Stops. Similar to the ideal version of Inca Roads using a foreshortened 1974 Helsinki solo on it. And there are a number of others, the 1982 Advance Romance solo on YCDTOSA Vol. 5 Disc 2 for one I can def recall.
was about to post that with a known edit point but looking for the unedited I found this, which is an insane solo.
Check out Wackerman's alien fills here. JFC. This should have ended up on the record instead.
https://youtu.be/FyalNgvrngw?t=18m5s
cued up, 18 m 5 s, use the link.
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Odd finding by accident: the chords which begin Zoot Allures were once part of the intro to Flambé, the song from Hunchentoot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpVdJN2EV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpVdJN2EV4
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
- KVRAF
- 14970 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
You mean the always alluring Amaj7-5 and Ebm11 not to mention the enigmatic A13 and Ab13.jancivil wrote: ↑Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:00 pm Odd finding by accident: the chords which begin Zoot Allures were once part of the intro to Flambé, the song from Hunchentoot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpVdJN2EV4
They just don't make chords like that anymore......
(The Delphic B13, Bsus4, and Bsus4/E aren't bad either...)
- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
In the Flambe arrangement it's actually the rising parallels after the introductory motif statements. The P4th stacks with the major 3rd on top up planed up a M3 then a m3. @2:19
https://youtu.be/E4XuDcbBA4g?t=139
this was so huge to me. That major 3 on top of the 4ths, and on top of the mixed 4ths, which look like say C with a C# bass.
https://youtu.be/E4XuDcbBA4g?t=139
this was so huge to me. That major 3 on top of the 4ths, and on top of the mixed 4ths, which look like say C with a C# bass.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Yes - and because Zappa music is so heavy and "condensed" itself, it advantages of the happy, loose performance. I've seen many too serious shows.