Hi Tobybear,

first of all, many thanks for your template and all your encouragement to get people started with developing their own plugs.

In your tutorial, you mention that people should look for the Delphi IDE on computer magazine disks, as Borland does not offer it for download any longer. Well, while i couldn't find a single magazin that comes with Delphi (at least here in Germany), i fortunately found a direct download link to the free Delphi 6 PE edition:

ftp://ftpd.borland.com/download/delphi/personal/BorlandDelph iPersonalEdition.exe

After downloading the 140 megs (!), you can get your activation key here:

http://www.borland.com/delphi/personal/del6personal_keyanddo wn_steps.html

Hope this helps all those people who are as desperate as I was because I was eager to start but had no compiler.

Fette Töle

Wow! Thank you very much for this link!

Cheers

Toby

www.tobybear.de

hi,
I downloaded delphi6 personal from the link above and got a serial and key from the other link above, yet installer did not accept the serial/key as valid.
anyone had success?

Hmm, strange, the links should work.
Did you check if you downloaded the rigth key? On the link above there are links to the Delphi 6 PE and Delphi 7 PE keys, maybe you clicked the wrong one?

If it still does not work, try asking Borland, after all it is still officially on their servers.

Cheers

Toby

www.tobybear.de

yes, make sure, you got the serial/auth key for the right version (6 PE). For me it worked fine just yesterday when I installed it on a friend's computer.

Fette Töle

are there advantages of using delphi instead of c++ ?

I find it easier to program in. It's more strict than C++. When it comes to execution speed and stuff it shouldn't matter which one you use. It all comes down to how efficient the compiler is and Borlands compiler is really good.

Isn't Fruity and MASSIVA written in Delphi btw?

aha, easier to code in is a good thing i guess... i heared delphi is somewhat similar to pascal, and i learned a bit turbopascal back then in school...
on the other hand the net is full with c++ tutorials and ebooks, thats good for me beginner.

2 things:
1. Delphi is the successor of Turbo Pascal, you can even use your old units
2. You can easily convert almost any C++ code to Delphi if you know a bit of both languages, both are equally powerful, Delphi is a way better for beginners though since it is more structured and allows very easy GUI design. But there is also reason fo rPros to go the Delphi way as the compiler speed and optimisation is excellent.

Cheers

Toby

www.tobybear.de

hmm sounds good, i think i give it a try.

Toby, I was under the (perhaps incorrect) impression that Delphi executables would be less efficient that C++. Would you say that you could achieve as good performance from a Delphi-coded VSTi as a C++ one?

I'm very interested because I've been thinking about trying some VST coding and have been trying to deide which language to learn: Object Pascal or C++. (I know a few other languages already).

Thanks in advance

Mike

If done correctly, Delphi can even be faster than C++ (at least MS VC++), direct conversions should run at least at the same speed.

http://www.optimalcode.com/

Here is a comparison test between C++ and Delphi with a simple chess program:
http://www.optimalcode.com/tscp.htm

Cheers

Toby

www.tobybear.de

Apparently, borland has discontinued support for delphi 6. I have downloaded the free PE 6, but can't get it to run, as it must be registered, and the borland registration links are dead.

Anybody have a working ser and registration for this program? I'm very interested in the ASIO and VST tools for delphi, but am not ready to sink a bunch of $$ into a state-of-the-art IDE for it yet.

EDIT: oops, I have PE 7, which is also supposed to be free. But no success running it yet.

Thanks!
-eric

As a Delphi user since version 1, I sympathize. But please don't ask others to violate their license agreements.