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Glitch RIP?
Glitch is still new / fresh.
11%
 11%  [12]
It's still interesting, but waning.
5%
 5%  [6]
Deader than dead. Been dead for years.
4%
 4%  [5]
I'm so sick of glitch I could venetian vomit.
7%
 7%  [8]
dBlue made it too easy, now even my Mom can glitch!
15%
 15%  [16]
I'm just waiting for the Madonna glitch album.
14%
 14%  [15]
The genre is stagnant, but might come back evolved.
14%
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Dead or not, I'll glitch to the bitter end.
4%
 4%  [5]
What the hell is this glitch you speak of?
9%
 9%  [10]
Other - please explain.
9%
 9%  [10]
Total Votes : 102

Author Topic: Is Glitch Dead?
JackDark
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:29 pm reply with quote
liars&ashes wrote:
take it to the radio and Nine Inch Nails it


Eh, it won't be too long before someone in the growing roster actually accomplishes that. They just need a bit more angst, tis all.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:31 pm reply with quote
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as far as glitch being dead... i don't buy into genres. they are invented to explain away beauty, or t0 elevate trash. if your music glitches and it is beautiful, it will never be dead. you can't put beauty in that kind of box.


sigh.


was that f**king pretentious enough for you? damn it i piss myself off sometimes!!! Mad
i'm not even going to change it. i am going to leave what i said unchanged, as a warning to others.

Crying or Very sad


Wow, the best thing you've ever written promptly followed by a retraction. You're s strange cat.

I don't know from glitch so I can't vote.
I love Jack's music, but wtf is similar?
I live in isolation from these things; I'm really not being sarcastic.

I recall someone once said my FSU-y tracks were "worse than glitch" but before I could appreciate that I spaced out and started dreaming of what I could do with glitch jockey live once again.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:35 pm reply with quote
I'm not sure about glitch, but Industrial is alive and well. The question to be asked is "is fresh new music in the genre in question still being made?". The answer for Industrial is "yes". Of course, if you don't realize that Industrial is not a regular genre anymore, and is in fact an umbrella/supergenre like Rock, you might think otherwise. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industrial_mu sic_subgenres ] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industrial_m usic_subgenres)
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JackDark
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:37 pm reply with quote
spencerh wrote:
I'm not sure about glitch, but Industrial is alive and well. The question to be asked is "is fresh new music in the genre in question still being made?". The answer for Industrial is "yes". Of course, if you don't realize that Industrial is not a regular genre anymore, and is in fact an umbrella/supergenre like Rock, you might think otherwise. [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industrial_mu sic_subgenres ] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industrial_m usic_subgenres)


I'm far from anti-industrial, it use to be "my thing". But that thing has waned terribly this decade... BUT, you tell me two actually -decent- industrial albums that came out this year and I'll give them a listen.
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JackDark
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:40 pm reply with quote
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I don't know from glitch so I can't vote.


Runagate your music would fall under "Post-Glitch". Smile

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I love Jack's music, but wtf is similar?


Well to be fair my last two releases were NOT glitch, one was self-proclaimed "Synthclash", and the other one was just "Experimental", though it had fleeting moments of glitch.

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I live in isolation from these things; I'm really not being sarcastic.


For the better, no doubt. You don't want to be all internally conflicted like my retarded ass.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:24 am reply with quote
JackDark wrote:
runagate wrote:
I don't know from glitch so I can't vote.


Runagate your music would fall under "Post-Glitch". Smile

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I love Jack's music, but wtf is similar?


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I live in isolation from these things; I'm really not being sarcastic.


For the better, no doubt. You don't want to be all internally conflicted like my retarded ass.


I'm afraid I really don't know what glitch is then, for the same reason Runagate mentioned; I am almost completely isolated from any kind of music "scene" outside of my wanderings around the net -here primarily.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:47 am reply with quote
I'm just waiting for madonna Hug tsk tsk tsk
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:02 am reply with quote
JackDark wrote:
So I was screwing around and made a little glitch track the other day, and I got to wondering...


you shameless nutseq's presets molester...

not a huge glitch listener, most on the mp3 I listen are from here.
is glitch a sound sorce or a method? I like to make my structures glitch, simply considering glitch as a simple evolution to both a static beat with a bassline or a programmed-for-hours-and-intentional-to-the-bone drum track.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:15 am reply with quote
runagate wrote:
Z3R0T0N1N wrote:
as far as glitch being dead... i don't buy into genres. they are invented to explain away beauty, or t0 elevate trash. if your music glitches and it is beautiful, it will never be dead. you can't put beauty in that kind of box.


sigh.


was that f**king pretentious enough for you? damn it i piss myself off sometimes!!! Mad
i'm not even going to change it. i am going to leave what i said unchanged, as a warning to others.

Crying or Very sad


Wow, the best thing you've ever written promptly followed by a retraction. You're s strange cat.

I don't know from glitch so I can't vote.
I love Jack's music, but wtf is similar?
I live in isolation from these things; I'm really not being sarcastic.


Me too - I never really understood what Glitch was or what defines so many of these micro-genres. It all seems to come down to including a certain kind of sound or sound source or different beat even as if you could place 2 different pieces of classical or jazz music in different genres because one has a piano in it and the other a violin and one is faster than the other? Confused I know some of the music I like is defined by others as "Glitch", maybe even some of what I make, but I never saw it that way as I was making this stuff before the term Glitch came along and anyway I hate being pigeonholed. So "Is Glitch dead?" - was it ever really alive?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:10 am reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:31 am reply with quote
Voted 'stagnant.' Various thoughts though:

1) I agree that, glitch isn't really a genre so much as a technique these days. Originally when the only people doing it were the serious eggheaded experimentalists it kind of made sense as a genre, but when you've got stuff as wide ranging as Fennesz, the Soft Pink Truth and some of the borderline breakcore stuff, it doesn't really make sense to think of it as a unified thing.

2) Part of the reason that glitch gets a bad rep is that for a lot of people there's still novelty in the actual sounds and the sounds are still associated with the idea of experimentation, so for a lot of people a tune will sound interesting if it has dBlue Glitch whacked on the drums, even if there's no idea at all about creating an atmosphere or a feeling or conveying emotion or anything like that. Hence you get loads of glitch that isn't very interesting, so the whole sound gets a bit boring by association.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:34 am reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:52 am reply with quote
JackDark wrote:
Long story short, it boils down to the fact that all electro-subgenres have an expiration date... that's how I feel. I am always looking for something new and futuristic


then don't worry about the fads. do something, learn from it, move on. I think the point has been hashed to death on this board: nothing is experimental after its been done the first time.

so glitch was new. it was futuristic. it was your experiment. at this point you decide a) its over - time to move on to your next experiment or b) f**k it - I really like this and I'm going to stick with it. but whatever you decide should be based on your own personal feelings and not the consensus of a bunch of strangers on a message board.

I mean look at the Rolling Stones. they should have given up decades ago but they enjoy what they're doing so they stick with it.

and I don't know what any of this has to do with other people's plug-ins, but if its all a ruse to get your ass kissed for being on-the-ball years ago with glitch plugs then just say so. you deserve the respect.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:59 am reply with quote
the jealous dig at dblue almost goes unnoticed amongst all those options
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:02 am reply with quote
glitch is definitely dead, all music is dead. origami is the future.
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