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hakey
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:05 am reply with quote
Just out of interest - is it possible to use an impulse response to recreate body resonance?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:12 am reply with quote
BTW: Violin "synth-secrets"...
www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr03/articles/synthsecrets48.asp
www.soundonsound.com/sos/may03/articles/synthsecrets49.asp
www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun03/articles/synthsecrets50.asp
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:15 am reply with quote
hakey wrote:
My attempt at a classical guitar in Diva - no outboard processing (mainly a lot of tweaking/comparing against the real thing, and some luck Wink ):
Classical Diva
Nice one, hakey! Impressive.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:21 am reply with quote
Howard wrote:
hakey wrote:
My attempt at a classical guitar in Diva - no outboard processing (mainly a lot of tweaking/comparing against the real thing, and some luck Wink ):
Classical Diva
Nice one, hakey! Impressive.
Indeed Thumbs Up!

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hakey
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:57 am reply with quote
thanks Smile

tbh - the midi clip I used is >50% of the illusion.

Here's the patch.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:44 am reply with quote
Wow. That is great work hakey! Amazing fingering and buzzing sounds! The midi clip must be providing the fingering.

A lot of people mistake my playing for real guitar (not that you would), and it's not just the electric stuff but the acoustic. When I use sampled nylon string guitars for example, I don't even use key switches (too complicated, besides that's cheating! Razz ), but there's a lot of guitar playing technique, strumming, legato playing, dynamic style, etc., that you can play into a midi file. That stuff is more important than the sound imo. You can even play a quite different sound using guitar techniques and it will often still sound "like a guitar." It's interesting how the mind is so intimately involved in the perception of the sound.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:16 am reply with quote
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Amazing fingering and buzzing sounds!

Thanks - like I say, a lot of it is down to the midi file I used (that kind of guitar articulation is very difficult to fake with a keyboard, as I'm sure you know). Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:24 am reply with quote
.... and it looks to me like it was recorded live. How the tremolo bits - the rapid, repeated notes (on a guitar it's the same string plucked with three fingers, one after the other, so that the plucks all run together) - were achieved is anyone's guess. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:55 am reply with quote
hakey wrote:
trance_lucent wrote:
Also with luck sometimes it is possible to manage without EQ resonances and use only that comb filter, but it is need careful tweaking of Tune, Tone and Flavour knobs.

My attempt at a classical guitar in Diva - no outboard processing (mainly a lot of tweaking/comparing against the real thing, and some luck Wink ):

Classical Diva


Again, this is gorgeous! Love
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hakey
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:16 am reply with quote
hakey wrote:
is it possible to use an impulse response to recreate body resonance?

Seems it is.

Here's an acoustic guitar IR:

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/realsimple/acoustic_guitar/gtrbod y.wav

It does add some guitar body flavour when used as a convolution IR.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:29 pm reply with quote
hakey! Your Diva's guitar is damn great! So warm!

Here is my Zebra attempt of bright acoustic guitar. It still need much tweaking (especially keytracking and velocity-tracking behaviour).

Two versions:

1. My own crude body-emulation attempt (using comb end eq). I'll definetely redo it with new information from aforementioned papers.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/Zebra_Acoustic_Guitar_(comb _plus_eq_body_emulation).mp3
or
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/zag_comb_eq.mp3

2. with gtrbody impulse response.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/Zebra_Acoustic_Guitar_(real _body_response).mp3
or
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57065234/zag_real_body.mp3

In comparison to real body impulse response, my body sounds more "eastern" Smile

Edit: added alternative short names for easier use.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:12 pm reply with quote
Nice patches trance-lucent!

Sounds rather zitherish - in a good way - but that's probably got as much to do with the playing style.

There's some great midis with guitar articulation here:

http://www.iama.gr/music/midi.html

"Orfeo Negro" is a good un. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:20 am reply with quote
@hakey & Trance Lucent:

both soundfiles are amazing (both sounds & playing/music)

Do you use a midi-guitar or is this played on a keyboard?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:01 pm reply with quote
Arrested Developer wrote:
Do you use a midi-guitar or is this played on a keyboard?

No, I cheated... I used a midi file for my clip (link in my last post).
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:16 pm reply with quote
hakey wrote:
Arrested Developer wrote:
Do you use a midi-guitar or is this played on a keyboard?

No, I cheated... I used a midi file for my clip (link in my last post).


I bet a MIDI guitar controller figured heavily in creating those sequences.
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