A little while ago I made a bank of sounds for Sampleotron using samples gleaned from my RS-202 string synth. I had grabbed those samples from another project I was doing for a KVR member involved in...well, nuff said about that.

Anyway, while I was sampling my RS-202, I went ahead and started looping and I ended up making my first sample set for Kontakt 2. These are available free in the Sample forum and would make great fodder for anyone needing samples for Wavesphere, Sampleotron or any of the other sample things Benedict's got or comes up with in the future.

Check it out here http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2746348

I'm granting an exception on the license included with the samples. The license states that you can only use the samples for your own music, or to distribute them in their original format (the whole rar archive, not the samples individually). However, anyone wishing to use them in SSP instruments, I hereby give permission to do so and to distribute the samples with SSP instrument banks via Benedict.

Fair enough?

Geez, emdot_ambient, just got done playing with some of these samples in Sampleotron. Thank you for this, what a great resource and reference point.

Thanks. I'd love to hear what you come up with.

You're stuck using one sample at a time, I'm afraid, as Sampleotron won't do multi-samples. Just stick with the samples of C in any octave and you'll keep the instrument in tune.

I wish I had some way of packaging these as a soundfont, but I haven't found a free way of doing that. I don't own a soundblaster card so Vienna won't work for me ;(

Well, I found a free way of packaging these as soundfonts...I got someone else to do it

Kara was kind enough to package these up in soundfont, VSampler 3 and WUSIK format here: http://www.kara-moon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1048.0

That Kara, what a good egg.

Hey thanks Em

These are good samples and very genuinely analog fat.

I believe I used one of these samples in that Document tune in the SSP music thread. It would be the Pad sound from SampleoTron.

Thanks, I'll be working on a more complete sample set from this string machine as time goes on. I've got most of the sampling done, but doing the looping takes time.

Doing this made me start thinking of buying several old Crumar Performers off ebay and then scavenging them all for parts. Maybe that way I could sustain one of them in working order.

I really loved my old Crumar

Aaah

The old Crummy Crumar

You know I know nothing of these beasts at all. i know that people had em and used them a lot on records but they really faded out and are in danger of leaving history if ppl like you don't keep a few alive and give ppl like me a sample set

When I bought it I knew nothing of them either. I didn't really even know them when they were in very famous songs, or songs I knew well--Shine On You Crazy Diamond, my favorite Oldfield LP Hergest Ridge, lots of Genesis stuff. I got it from a friend for $200 back in the early to mid-80s. I was kind of embarrassed to like it so much--kind of a guilty pleasure--because it could sound so cheesy. But when my younger brother played it on an old personal favorite long cassette recording I did with my Granville collaborator, I fell in love with it. And my brother isn't much of a keyboardist, either, he just happened to hit it perfectly and our sound man had processed it just right.


Well, since GMedia's coming out with their Virtual String Machine, I think they won't be forgotten. I'm anxious for that because I love these things and that sample-based synth is going to be so much more than just straight sample sets.

I think they're fascinating instruments. I give a detailed description of the 202 in the readme file. But the first thing that really blew my mind back when I bought it was…total polyphony. You can play every note at once. That was unheard of back then in all but this kind of instrument. Of course the way they did that was conceptually easy….take a high frequency oscillator running at a constant pitch and split the signal into the same number of signal paths as the instrument has keys. Then pass each of those signals through a resistor network that divides the oscillator's frequency down to match the note's pitch. So the signal of all the keys is available at once. The bad thing is that the oscillator used is fairly crude not changeable--one wave shape only. The resistor networks were so component heavy that making the synths any more complex would make it too expensive to build.

I wonder if I can do that divide down trick? I have heard of it but that was a good precis. I guess it would still have the same or worse CPU hit anyway so no point.


You really will have sample every key of that baby tho.

But how great being able to fall on the keyboard and have it play all the notes at once. Rick Wakeman must have wanted one.

You're giving me ideas tho.....

Yeah, I've thought about that but I'm not sure there's really much point. It would be interesting to see what the CPU hit actually turned out to be, though. I assume it would still be horrible.


I did . . . 7 times over, as a matter of fact. I'm thinking of doing it a couple more times to get the Brass sound, just to see if it could be co-opted into making useful sounds. On the keyboard itself it's a total waste of space.


Many was the time I'd lay my whole arm across the keyboard to get this delicious cluster of dissonance. Run it through a phaser and delay and it was a pretty interesting stab at very colorful white noise.


GOOD!