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Detroit Chords

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.

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scotch5010
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6 posts since 30 Jul, 2007

Postby scotch5010; Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:31 am Detroit Chords

Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot
napalmbob
KVRian
 
1214 posts since 7 Aug, 2006, from Geelong, Australia

Postby napalmbob; Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:52 am

Just basics, like major/minor, etc. But they're usually sampled and then transposed around to give them not not-quite-human feeling.

Myself? I like to tune my oscillators so that they form a chord, then just hit a single key to play it.
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ckatrun411
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Postby ckatrun411; Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:46 am

ones, flat 3rds, flat 7ths, minor sevenths, octaves, perfect 5ths, perfect 4ths, and such.... probably some octaves, ninths, 11ths and 13ths as well...
napalmbob
KVRian
 
1214 posts since 7 Aug, 2006, from Geelong, Australia

Postby napalmbob; Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:54 am

ckatrun411 wrote:ones, flat 3rds, flat 7ths, minor sevenths, octaves, perfect 5ths, perfect 4ths, and such.... probably some octaves, ninths, 11ths and 13ths as well...

Huh?

Could you draw a picture.....pleeeeease.....?

:D




Seriously...
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ckatrun411
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Postby ckatrun411; Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:05 am

ouch, massive typing. for an in depth explanation of this I suggest.... " music theory " by george thaddeus jones...


http://www.amazon.ca/HarperCollins-Coll ... 0064671682
nuffink
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6529 posts since 12 Mar, 2002, from UK

Postby nuffink; Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:08 am

ckatrun411 wrote:ones, flat 3rds, flat 7ths, minor sevenths, octaves, perfect 5ths, perfect 4ths, and such.... probably some octaves, ninths, 11ths and 13ths as well...


Those are chords in your head are they?
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napalmbob
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1214 posts since 7 Aug, 2006, from Geelong, Australia

Postby napalmbob; Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:10 am

:troll: GAME ON! :troll:
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nuffink
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6529 posts since 12 Mar, 2002, from UK

Postby nuffink; Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:12 am

scotch5010 wrote:Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot


Mainly minor and particularly minor 7th chords. Sampled and played back as one finger chords, as napalmbob said, to give you a bunch of parallel minor chords.
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nuffink
KVRAF
 
6529 posts since 12 Mar, 2002, from UK

Postby nuffink; Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:13 am

napalmbob wrote::troll: GAME ON! :troll:


Hardly.
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ckatrun411
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Postby ckatrun411; Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:18 am

I remember when I was a 13 year old boy, I was stuck in slough for two weeks...
Nev
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240 posts since 19 Mar, 2002

Postby Nev; Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:37 am

nuffink wrote:
scotch5010 wrote:Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot


Mainly minor and particularly minor 7th chords. Sampled and played back as one finger chords, as napalmbob said, to give you a bunch of parallel minor chords.


By parallel do you mean chords that move up/down chromatically yet maintain their intervals ? Have I understood that right ?

and any chance of a Detroit chords preset for Playa ;) ?

Nev
I span the genres, they call me the genre spanner.
nuffink
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6529 posts since 12 Mar, 2002, from UK

Postby nuffink; Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:56 am

Nev wrote:
nuffink wrote:
scotch5010 wrote:Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot


Mainly minor and particularly minor 7th chords. Sampled and played back as one finger chords, as napalmbob said, to give you a bunch of parallel minor chords.


By parallel do you mean chords that move up/down chromatically yet maintain their intervals ? Have I understood that right ?

and any chance of a Detroit chords preset for Playa ;) ?

Nev


Exactly that, Nev. As for Playa, just set it to use all the minor 7ths (-7).
I still think that for authenticity you need to sample the chord and let your sampler repitch it.
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Deric
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492 posts since 16 Oct, 2004

Postby Deric; Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:01 am

napalmbob
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1214 posts since 7 Aug, 2006, from Geelong, Australia

Postby napalmbob; Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:18 am

Nev wrote:By parallel do you mean chords that move up/down chromatically yet maintain their intervals ? Have I understood that right ?

Yeah, I think so. This is because back in the eighties it was easier to play samples from your Akai and record to an 8-track.

Try this:
Record a piano playing a classic C-E-G chord. Now load it in a sample player (most software will let you play any sample across a keyboard). Now play a simple melody with this sample. So its still a C-E-G chord but you are now transposing the sample of a chord rather than playing an actual chord across the keyboard.

EDITED TO ADD QUOTE AS I WAS TRYING MY OWN ADVICE BEFORE I POSTED
Last edited by napalmbob on Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
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napalmbob
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1214 posts since 7 Aug, 2006, from Geelong, Australia

Postby napalmbob; Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:26 am

EDIT:ignore this
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