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Detroit Chords

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:31 am
by scotch5010
Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:52 am
by napalmbob
Just basics, like major/minor, etc. But they're usually sampled and then transposed around to give them not not-quite-human feeling.

Myself? I like to tune my oscillators so that they form a chord, then just hit a single key to play it.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:46 am
by ckatrun411
ones, flat 3rds, flat 7ths, minor sevenths, octaves, perfect 5ths, perfect 4ths, and such.... probably some octaves, ninths, 11ths and 13ths as well...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:54 am
by napalmbob
ckatrun411 wrote:ones, flat 3rds, flat 7ths, minor sevenths, octaves, perfect 5ths, perfect 4ths, and such.... probably some octaves, ninths, 11ths and 13ths as well...

Huh?

Could you draw a picture.....pleeeeease.....?

:D




Seriously...

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:05 am
by ckatrun411
ouch, massive typing. for an in depth explanation of this I suggest.... " music theory " by george thaddeus jones...


http://www.amazon.ca/HarperCollins-Coll ... 0064671682

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:08 am
by nuffink
ckatrun411 wrote:ones, flat 3rds, flat 7ths, minor sevenths, octaves, perfect 5ths, perfect 4ths, and such.... probably some octaves, ninths, 11ths and 13ths as well...


Those are chords in your head are they?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:10 am
by napalmbob
:troll: GAME ON! :troll:

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:12 am
by nuffink
scotch5010 wrote:Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot


Mainly minor and particularly minor 7th chords. Sampled and played back as one finger chords, as napalmbob said, to give you a bunch of parallel minor chords.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:13 am
by nuffink
napalmbob wrote::troll: GAME ON! :troll:


Hardly.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:18 am
by ckatrun411
I remember when I was a 13 year old boy, I was stuck in slough for two weeks...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:37 am
by Nev
nuffink wrote:
scotch5010 wrote:Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot


Mainly minor and particularly minor 7th chords. Sampled and played back as one finger chords, as napalmbob said, to give you a bunch of parallel minor chords.


By parallel do you mean chords that move up/down chromatically yet maintain their intervals ? Have I understood that right ?

and any chance of a Detroit chords preset for Playa ;) ?

Nev

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:56 am
by nuffink
Nev wrote:
nuffink wrote:
scotch5010 wrote:Hi,

can someone please tell me which typical chords are used in so called Detroit Techno (Carl Craig etc.)

Thanks a lot


Mainly minor and particularly minor 7th chords. Sampled and played back as one finger chords, as napalmbob said, to give you a bunch of parallel minor chords.


By parallel do you mean chords that move up/down chromatically yet maintain their intervals ? Have I understood that right ?

and any chance of a Detroit chords preset for Playa ;) ?

Nev


Exactly that, Nev. As for Playa, just set it to use all the minor 7ths (-7).
I still think that for authenticity you need to sample the chord and let your sampler repitch it.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:01 am
by Deric

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:18 am
by napalmbob
Nev wrote:By parallel do you mean chords that move up/down chromatically yet maintain their intervals ? Have I understood that right ?

Yeah, I think so. This is because back in the eighties it was easier to play samples from your Akai and record to an 8-track.

Try this:
Record a piano playing a classic C-E-G chord. Now load it in a sample player (most software will let you play any sample across a keyboard). Now play a simple melody with this sample. So its still a C-E-G chord but you are now transposing the sample of a chord rather than playing an actual chord across the keyboard.

EDITED TO ADD QUOTE AS I WAS TRYING MY OWN ADVICE BEFORE I POSTED

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 4:26 am
by napalmbob
EDIT:ignore this