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how to make a "deadmau5" styled song

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:25 am
by masterlup
Hey everybody ...
we had that thread more or less but i could't get my answers of it. so here is the second try

- that was the other thread
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5&start=45
- that is what came out by user DJ Inphinity (famous producer from chitown)
http://www3.speedyshare.com/data/411260 ... admau5.mp3

how to create that sounds, and what is more important what is the technique to play such melodies, so that they sound so "progressive"

more samples of what style i mean :

Deadmau5
http://ak-samples.beatport.com/items/volumes/volume6/items/0/500000/10000/6000/900/0/516900.LOFI.mp3
http://ak-samples.beatport.com/items/volumes/volume1/items/0/400000/60000/7000/600/70/467678.LOFI.mp3
Glenn Morrison
http://ak-samples.beatport.com/items/volumes/volume7/items/0/400000/70000/2000/800/0/472808.LOFI.mp3
http://ak-samples.beatport.com/items/volumes/volume4/items/0/300000/80000/2000/700/20/382722.LOFI.mp3
Adam K
http://ak-samples.beatport.com/items/volumes/volume4/items/0/400000/60000/9000/300/40/469340.LOFI.mp3

PS:
i know its lazy to copy someones style ... but i really love that kind of style and im not comercial. Want to transform some older projekt or midi files to that SMOKIN HOT stlye.

pls help :help:

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:13 pm
by dannyqt18
it's all in the compression, use sidechain for the bass plus other few bits and you're there :)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:38 pm
by MacQ
The production is really not as hard as you might think. I could knock something off in FL Studio in about 20 minutes. The talent comes from the chord progressions and arrangement. It's about building up a dance floor, and that's not something that there's a simple tutorial for.

What specifically are you having trouble with?

~Stu

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:24 am
by masterlup
thanks very much for the reply

yeah i will try to learn something about chord-progg. but i still can't get the sound. i use fl studio and if i play the compressor in the mixxer nothin special happens ...

1
is someone out there who can give me a step-to-step tutorial in creating that smooth sound?

2
can some one maybe upload an "selfmade" midi file of that genre so i get an idea
of placin notes?

while playing a bit .... that turns out... doest really sound proggy but the sounds not bad (made with synth1)
http://www.speedyshare.com/138496631.html

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:34 am
by MacQ
This afternoon I'll do you a huge favour and whip up a track like that using only FL generators. The peak controller is your friend ...

Stay tuned.

~Stu

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:13 am
by masterlup
that would be the greatest thing ever ...

i've tested the peak controller for the first time ... can't believe i never heard of peak controller/sidechain compressor ...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:59 am
by bosconianarts
Deadmau5 uses a lot of pluck sounds. His main pluck is primarily made up of saws. Without totally giving it away, you have to really play with the filter/amp envelopes to get the right sound which 'opens' up with cuttoff modulation. Program a 1/64 notes on AND off the beat to create the pattern. Keep in mind it has to be the right chord to sound right. That's something you find on your own.

The bass is either, as mentioned, a sidechained bass, or another deep pluck-type bass. The strings or pads used are also sidechained.

His pad or strings section is easy. You can probably use any strings preset and turn the cuttoff down so it sounds softer. Sidechain.

Also, here's some info that might be interesting.

He uses Fruity Loops. If it's the sound you're looking for, you might find it there. I believe there's also a preset he programmed for FL.
If you go to FLstudio.c0m, you'll find an article interview with him.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:25 pm
by bosconianarts
Here's an example of what I'm talking about the pluck. It didn't take me too long to program the patch.

http://www.speedyshare.com/931264153.html

What I think though is that you need to find your own staple sound. This is Deadmau5's. Don't get me wrong. This sound has existed for years. He just put it into the limelight. So once again, experiment... it's part of how I got the sound I made in the example above.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:58 am
by masterlup
bosconianarts wrote:Program a 1/64 notes on AND off the beat to create the pattern.


thanks bosconianarts. what doest this sentence actually mean ? i dont unterstand it.. when i tryd a bit and played and found out that it sounds good if the kick comes every 1/4 and the PLUG-CORDs come in the MID of 2 kicks also every 1/4.

i really liked your progg sample :D .. thats where i wanna go

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:46 am
by masterlup
http://www.speedyshare.com/725680314.html

getting better ... but still not happy ;-(

sidechained pluck and sidechained reverb :> (by kick)

searchin for a filter like that one in Synth1 ... couse i now how to use it for plucked sounds ... that knob "amt" does it ...

gettin better with cords n stuff

pls help !!! im out ... peace ... real life is waitin

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:00 am
by Jesus C
in few words

JUST INSPIRE YOURSELF IN THE TRACK OF KYLIE MINOGUE - CAN'T GET YOU OUT OF MY HEAD

That's the secret of sounding like deadmau5 :D :D :D

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:31 pm
by masterlup
haha .. nice idea ... i direct loaded the midi file. its like i figured :-) every 3/4 the PLUCK

the confusing thing is it has a bpm of 126 and doesnt sound that fast :-)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:26 pm
by annode
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/music/demo.mp3 :shock:
Midi files for pluck keys and three piece drum for your convenience.
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... .files.zip

PS:BPM is 125

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:49 pm
by ephrem
annode wrote:http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/music/demo.mp3 :shock:
Midi files for pluck keys and three piece drum for your convenience.
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... .files.zip

PS:BPM is 125


..did you do that demo, annode?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:19 am
by masterlup
thats fuckin great ... thanks for the midi ... studying it right now

here the newest shit of me :-)

http://www.speedyshare.com/340736357.html

thanks for all your help by now ;-) im happy for every new post