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Hi Gordon,
Glad the preset is loading for you now that the 1.09 upgrade is out. If what I threw together so far is vaguely in the ballpark, then I can probably get it closer. If you're determined to set up your pitchbend controls the same way he does his, you'll have to research his techniques and share them here. I have no idea how he does it -- but I agree the results sound great on that audio clip you posted! Busy week for me now, but maybe I can get back to this on the weekend... Paul ---- ![]() |
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PaulSC wrote: Hi Gordon,
Glad the preset is loading for you now that the 1.09 upgrade is out. If what I threw together so far is vaguely in the ballpark, then I can probably get it closer. If you're determined to set up your pitchbend controls the same way he does his, you'll have to research his techniques and share them here. I have no idea how he does it -- but I agree the results sound great on that audio clip you posted! Busy week for me now, but maybe I can get back to this on the weekend... Paul Great, I will have to find that interview. Someone on Pat Metheny's American Garage forum may have it. Cheers, Gordon |
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There is one point that I do remember. It's that the pitch bending Lyle described as being accomplished using a foot pedal triggering an LFO which modulates the pitch of the note being played. Can this be done with Alchemy?
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Beardedone wrote: There is one point that I do remember. It's that the pitch bending Lyle described as being accomplished using a foot pedal triggering an LFO which modulates the pitch of the note being played. Can this be done with Alchemy?
Cheers, GOrdon Yes, as long as you have a foot pedal that can send MIDI CC data, the technique you describe can be done. ---- ![]() |
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PaulSC wrote: Beardedone wrote: There is one point that I do remember. It's that the pitch bending Lyle described as being accomplished using a foot pedal triggering an LFO which modulates the pitch of the note being played. Can this be done with Alchemy?
Cheers, GOrdon Yes, as long as you have a foot pedal that can send MIDI CC data, the technique you describe can be done. Right but I don't understand the LFO triggering. How would that be done in Alchemy? Best, Gordon |
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Maybe "foot pedal triggering an LFO" is ambiguous. LFOs normally run continuously and don't require a trigger per se. I'll assume what's needed is to be able to apply the LFO to the target only when the foot pedal is pressed.
To achieve this, route the LFO to the target (Fine Tune, for vibrato), but with a modulation depth of zero. Then right-click the modulation depth knob and choose "Add Modulation > Performance Controls > Control 8". Finally, right-click Performance Control 8, choose MIDI Learn, and then send control data from your foot pedal to link it to the Perform knob. (Doesn't have to be knob 8, just used this for an example.) ---- ![]() |
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PaulSC wrote: Maybe "foot pedal triggering an LFO" is ambiguous. LFOs normally run continuously and don't require a trigger per se. I'll assume what's needed is to be able to apply the LFO to the target only when the foot pedal is pressed.
To achieve this, route the LFO to the target (Fine Tune, for vibrato), but with a modulation depth of zero. Then right-click the modulation depth knob and choose "Add Modulation > Performance Controls > Control 8". Finally, right-click Performance Control 8, choose MIDI Learn, and then send control data from your foot pedal to link it to the Perform knob. (Doesn't have to be knob 8, just used this for an example.) OK I'll try to see if I can do this. I am very slow with this kind of thing. Once I manage to do this does it matter about the kind of LFO. I am thinking that the LFO frequency and shape affect the performance? Thanks, Gordon |
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a sine will do for vibrato, adjust the freq/speed to suit... |
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I tried it but it sounds horrible. Is there a way I can post my mod?
Cheers, Gordon |
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It has come up a couple of times already but I also would enjoy a set of VA-only sounds: pads, basses, leads.
It would be cool if Alchemy could sound like Korg Radias. Alchemy has similar bright, excellent sound so I think it could be possible. Here are Radias demo songs: http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=262 |
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Beardedone wrote: I tried it but it sounds horrible. Is there a way I can post my mod?
Cheers, Gordon You'll need a place to host the file. Looks like you've got your own website; otherwise, there are plenty of solutions like box.net and rapidshare and so on. Just save your preset with a suitable name. Say you call it "LyleMod" then in the same folder as your preset (LyleMod.acp) you should also find a file named something like "LyleModA.aaz" -- the audio data for Source A. You can post the two files separately, or zip them up in a folder together and post that. To be honest, I'm puzzled how the pedal-triggered LFO works in the audio example you posted, because I don't hear any periodic variation in pitch such as an LFO would produce. Until you know more about the LFO rate and the LFO shape that LM is using, I think this mystery is going to remain unsolved. (And even when that information is known, it may require learning special performance techniques before you can get the same kind of performed result out of a comparable setup.) ---- ![]() |
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OK here is my mod
LyleReed03 I tried using my expression pedal linked to LFO depth. Maybe there is a better way. Or perhaps I am just not a good enough keys player. Thanks, Gordon |
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Did Camel ever commission another bank? I thought I read that they did but not sure if I was dreaming. Thanks. ---- my music: http://www.soundclick.com/alexcooper “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” |
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patchmemory wrote: ATS wrote: Did Camel ever commission another bank? I thought I read that they did but not sure if I was dreaming. Thanks.
im pretty sure there are more on the way, it was mentioned in another thread a few weeks ago? Looking forward to them. ---- my music: http://www.soundclick.com/alexcooper “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” |
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