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Electri6ity

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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benjamind
KVRian
 
900 posts since 4 Aug, 2004, from Ain't tellin' ya...

Postby benjamind; Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:22 pm Electri6ity

Hmmm...Seems like another sample-based virtual guitar plugin, this one by Vir2.

They claim it offers seamless morphing of articulations because they are phase-aligned, and also legato.

I know they haven't released it yet, but considering they're not Samplemodeling, I wonder if their claims of seamless articulations and legato would hold up? I guess time will tell.

Maybe Electri6ity will be different to the rest of the sample-based guitars, and perhaps will sound much more realistic 'between the notes' so to speak.

But I'll still hold on to my guns and say that Mokafix Audio's physical modeling will probably still be much better than even this latest virtual guitar. I'm skeptical of seamless morphing articulation and legato with samples unless it's Samplemodeling, perhaps I'll be proven wrong and Vir2 have something up their sleeves that will surprise us. We'll see.

Ben
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present
dickiefunk
KVRAF
 
2317 posts since 22 Mar, 2006, from cornwall

Postby dickiefunk; Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:48 am

Woah sounds interesting!

Any links to more info?
dynamitec
KVRist
 
283 posts since 25 Jul, 2006

Postby dynamitec; Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:03 am

Hey dickiefunk,
The Electri6ity website will be online this week. Till then you'll find a thread about Electri6ity here (including some WIP demos/features/discussion):

http://vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15029

Maybe Electri6ity will be different to the rest of the sample-based guitars, and perhaps will sound much more realistic 'between the notes' so to speak.


We worked more than three years on Electri6ity. And actually the realism 'between the notes' is one thing we definitely wanted to get right! Electri6ity plays without the small gaps/fading sounds most virtual guitars introduce. And it plays without strange phasing artifacts even if you play very fast solos at 200BPM or faster.
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio
dynamitec
KVRist
 
283 posts since 25 Jul, 2006

Postby dynamitec; Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:41 pm

Sorry, wrong link! Fixed!
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio
Ben H
KVRAF
 
1568 posts since 28 Jul, 2003

Postby Ben H; Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:53 pm

The demos sound good, coming from a non-guitarist's perspective.

Although some actual guitarist's will probably end up tearing my opinion to shreds.
(sorry, bad pun). :D
benjamind
KVRian
 
900 posts since 4 Aug, 2004, from Ain't tellin' ya...

Postby benjamind; Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:53 pm

dynamitec wrote:We worked more than three years on Electri6ity. And actually the realism 'between the notes' is one thing we definitely wanted to get right! Electri6ity plays without the small gaps/fading sounds most virtual guitars introduce. And it plays without strange phasing artifacts even if you play very fast solos at 200BPM or faster.


Sounds promising.

Is there an equivalent instrument to cover the bass guitars as well?
I know there is BASiS, but I'm not sure if that's on the same level as Electri6ity in terms of seamless legato/articulation. Are you working on a new bass module?

Ben
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present
K-Slash
KVRAF
 
1692 posts since 9 Jul, 2006, from Paris, France

Postby K-Slash; Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:29 am

benjamind wrote:
dynamitec wrote:We worked more than three years on Electri6ity. And actually the realism 'between the notes' is one thing we definitely wanted to get right! Electri6ity plays without the small gaps/fading sounds most virtual guitars introduce. And it plays without strange phasing artifacts even if you play very fast solos at 200BPM or faster.


Sounds promising.

Is there an equivalent instrument to cover the bass guitars as well?
I know there is BASiS, but I'm not sure if that's on the same level as Electri6ity in terms of seamless legato/articulation. Are you working on a new bass module?

Ben

Interesting point, I'd be intereted in a new heavy-weighted BASiS version too.

Maybe using this engine for BASiS v2 and Acoustic Legends HD v2 would be a great solution, then make a nice bundle of these 3 instruments and you've a winner.
benjamind
KVRian
 
900 posts since 4 Aug, 2004, from Ain't tellin' ya...

Postby benjamind; Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:32 am

K-Slash wrote:Interesting point, I'd be intereted in a new heavy-weighted BASiS version too.

Maybe using this engine for BASiS v2 and Acoustic Legends HD v2 would be a great solution, then make a nice bundle of these 3 instruments and you've a winner.


I can imagine they are working on this too, perhaps that will be unveiled when the time comes. I am hoping they redo all of the bass and acoustic instruments for their new generation of products.

I think Electri6ity will be good, but even then I'm still a bit scared of anything sample-based to do with guitars/bass even with the new morphing technology. Heh, maybe that's just me :wink:

It might turn out to be a winner. If so, I think the bass and acoustics could be done from scratch to get the best final product.

Ben
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present
dynamitec
KVRist
 
283 posts since 25 Jul, 2006

Postby dynamitec; Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:46 pm

benjamind wrote:They claim it offers seamless morphing of articulations because they are phase-aligned, and also legato.

I know they haven't released it yet, but considering they're not Samplemodeling, I wonder if their claims of seamless articulations and legato would hold up? I guess time will tell.

Maybe Electri6ity will be different to the rest of the sample-based guitars, and perhaps will sound much more realistic 'between the notes' so to speak.


Hi Ben,

Here is WIP demo for you (and everybody else ;). It shows what Electri6ity does 'between the notes': Electri6ity never just plays back a sample! It always connects the notes depending on your playing or the current articulation. The demo shows a lot of legato, pinch harmonics, slides etc. and it demonstrates how everything works even at very fast speeds! A lot of guitar library introduce a short reverb/chorus effect, if notes are played very fast which doesn't sound realistically. A significant amount of the more than three years of development was spent on such details, since it is so important for the overall realism.

Take a listen:
http://www.benjaminstelzer.de/demo/Elec ... 100307.mp3
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio
dynamitec
KVRist
 
283 posts since 25 Jul, 2006

Postby dynamitec; Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:33 am

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to let you know that a lot of new demos are online now:

Electri6ity: Medley of Famous Riffs and Solos (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS5MDHMOWtE

Electri6ity: Tele (Crazy) Funk Solo Demo (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3NCO1HyYOs

Electri6ity: LP Chopin Op. 10 No. 9 Variation Legato Demo (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxfisnW2Kw

Electri6ity: 335 and L4 Jazzy Demo (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WTr85bmlkI

Electri6ity: Stratocaster Front Pickup Paganini (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoY4ZBbXk-8

Electri6ity: Stratocaster Rear Pickup Paganini (HD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDXePFU5uDs

I hope you'll like them!
Last edited by dynamitec on Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio
luxth
KVRian
 
1009 posts since 31 Dec, 2004

Postby luxth; Sat Apr 17, 2010 2:32 am

cool stuff Ben :)

Luca
Dream Audio Tools - Sample libraries http://www.dreamaudiotools.com
Archisounds - Music Website http://www.archisounds.net
K-Slash
KVRAF
 
1692 posts since 9 Jul, 2006, from Paris, France

Postby K-Slash; Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:12 am

Thanks Benjamin,

I have HIGH hopes for this to became the ultimate all-in-one electric guitar virtual instrument.

However I think that the integrated amp simulation sound so fake/synth.

I would love to hear some tracks processed with high quality simulations such as AmpliTube 3, Vandal, or TH1.
dynamitec
KVRist
 
283 posts since 25 Jul, 2006

Postby dynamitec; Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:16 am

Hi K-Slash,

some demonstration videos will be shot soon, demonstrating Electri6ity live with amp sims. Stay tuned :)
Cheers,
Benjamin
Virtual Instrument Developer @ Vir2 / Bigfish Audio
K-Slash
KVRAF
 
1692 posts since 9 Jul, 2006, from Paris, France

Postby K-Slash; Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:20 am

dynamitec wrote:Hi K-Slash,

some demonstration videos will be shot soon, demonstrating Electri6ity live with amp sims. Stay tuned :)

Excellent !

I have yet to hear them, as well as the BASiS DI samples through the AmpliTube 3 bass amps and Ampeg SVX :D !

Please bump this topic as soon as it's done, I'm subscribing it.

Have a nice weekend, and thanks for doing such playable/detailed instruments.
MWSOS
KVRian
 
769 posts since 13 Jun, 2006, from Cornwall, UK

Postby MWSOS; Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:34 am

dynamitec wrote:Hi everyone,
I just wanted to let you know that a lot of new demos are online now

I hope you'll like them!


Hi Benjamin!

I certainly do - wow, those are really impressive 8)

I suspect you'd get some excellent reviews for this product :tu:


Martin
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