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fluffy_little_something
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:20 am Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

I was just listening to some older songs and wondering why I don't hear those driving groovy synth bass lines anymore these days. I mean, so many people make music on the computer, Diva, Monark etc. offer huge bass potential, but people don't seem to come up with cool bass lines anymore, like in these songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OPMiZu-xKM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnCxKH7z4ak

Is that just my impression (I love bass, which is why I focus on it a lot whenever I hear a song, much more than on the singing, guitars, etc.)? Or has the importance of bass lines decreased over time?
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Postby deastman; Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:37 am Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

I can't post a link from my phone at the moment, but one of my favorites is Cruel Summer by Bananarama.
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:43 am Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

Let me do that for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ePIZugahFc


Yes, those kinds of bass lines :) I read somewhere that 2 of the 3 girls were bass players themselves :)

Maybe one reason is the exaggerated bass drum these days :P
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Postby Sendy; Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:50 am Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

Yeah, there's probably not enough room, the bass space is being hogged by the monotonous "WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP" of long 808 kicks and similar. These kicks don't even die down before the next one triggers, so rather than a pulse, you end up with a wall of bass kick part. Also, synth basses tended to be funky, and I see a lack of funk in most modern music.

Massive generalization of course, but true to a degree.
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:08 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

I remember a lot of the 80's Quincy Jones stuff, he used to use synth basses also for ballads, not just for funky dance stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQX6TIsRbbc
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Postby RunBeerRun; Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:17 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

I never had a problem with the old synths sound-wise, sometimes I flip on a radio station with current music, and almost always is the synth sound actually offensive.
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Postby Aloysius; Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:17 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

Have to change my post. Synth Bass. OK. I'll be back in a moment.
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:20 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

We are talking about SYNTH bass 8)
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Postby Aloysius; Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:21 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

OK. I'm back. I've loved this Track and the Synth Bass line since the day it was released. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy10rRJ0Cuk

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Postby fluffy_little_something; Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:27 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

Sendy wrote:Yeah, there's probably not enough room, the bass space is being hogged by the monotonous "WHUMP WHUMP WHUMP" of long 808 kicks and similar. These kicks don't even die down before the next one triggers, so rather than a pulse, you end up with a wall of bass kick part. Also, synth basses tended to be funky, and I see a lack of funk in most modern music.

Massive generalization of course, but true to a degree.


Often the synth bass was actually not really low, but had quite some higher-frequency content, which was why it was so audible in the first place (subwoofers were rather rare in the 80's).

What I hear in RnB a lot are those sine basses, they are very low, but on average stereos or desktop speakers one can barely hear them, too low. Basically they are of the same annoying nature as those modern bass drums.
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Postby larm; Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:59 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

There's a genre called electro funk that has a bit of theese synth bass lines sometimes. Chromeo did a few tunes a few years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm4JVkH0T-E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppNC0uAaCv0

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Postby ouroboros; Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:06 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

Funny, I was thinking about this just this week.
first Jeffery Osborne, You should be mine, then Wham - Everything she wants.
Lots of syncopated bouncy basses in the 80's kept things moving.
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Postby Aloysius; Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:41 am Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

larm wrote:There's a genre called electro funk that has a bit of theese synth bass lines sometimes. Chromeo did a few tunes a few years ago:

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Great interview here, really nerdy :)
http://www.mixcloud.com/brooklynradio/s ... w-chromeo/


Thanks. I checked out some of their Tunes. I find their sound a bit dry and lacking the spirit of classic eighties grooves. Will check out the podcast. :tu:
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Postby deastman; Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:27 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

Another classic synth bass:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVkN0VhOuZ0


I've never been quite sure if this was a synth or a real bass, but it always comes to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQYyKzyDaE
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Postby arkmabat; Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:48 pm Re: Where have all the synth bass lines gone?

I've been listening to lots of 80s music lately and I agree... We need more groovy bass!
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