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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:10 am reply with quote
I think I'm going to hang on to the p-rail and install it/have it installed in my Strat once I get my Tele. The humbucker in the Strat is the thing that isn't quite up to par,everything else on the instrument is great.

Off to Guitar Center for cables, gotta hook up my Tascam recorder today! And find a shipping box... HiHi HiHi
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:18 am reply with quote
morelia wrote:
How could I get an idea of what the P Rails sound like?

The main benefit of the P-Rails is the versatile switching possibilities. As a straight humbucker, I personally think there are better things available.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:29 am reply with quote
woolyloach wrote:
I think I'm going to hang on to the p-rail and install it/have it installed in my Strat once I get my Tele.

An awesome switching system for a P-Rail in a strat would be:

P-Rail P-90 bridge
P-Rail P-90 bridge + middle
P-Rail Rail Coil bridge + neck
middle + neck
neck

Then, add a "blower" switch that solos the P-Rail humbucker and bypasses all the knobs and the 5-way switch. By bypassing the knobs, you'll get some extra highs and volume out of the P-Rail humbucker, which would otherwise sound super dull going through the 250K pots (it's a dull sounding humbucker even compared to other humbuckers, even through 500K pots).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:48 am reply with quote
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woolyloach wrote:
I think I'm going to hang on to the p-rail and install it/have it installed in my Strat once I get my Tele.

An awesome switching system for a P-Rail in a strat would be:

P-Rail P-90 bridge
P-Rail P-90 bridge + middle
P-Rail Rail Coil bridge + neck
middle + neck
neck

Then, add a "blower" switch that solos the P-Rail humbucker and bypasses all the knobs and the 5-way switch. By bypassing the knobs, you'll get some extra highs and volume out of the P-Rail humbucker, which would otherwise sound super dull going through the 250K pots (it's a dull sounding humbucker even compared to other humbuckers, even through 500K pots).


I'll have to have a longer convo with the tech at GC - today I got a nice estimate for a straight swap, very affordable! Shit! Not sure I WANT all that switching, I just want to find a use for the P-Rails and replacing the 'bucker in my Strat is perfect.

But NOTHING happens until I get a second guitar. I don't want to be guitarless for more than a few days! Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:12 pm reply with quote
woolyloach wrote:
I'll have to have a longer convo with the tech at GC - today I got a nice estimate for a straight swap, very affordable! Shit! Not sure I WANT all that switching, I just want to find a use for the P-Rails and replacing the 'bucker in my Strat is perfect.

Maybe it'll work out well. My first thought was that the P-Rail is already a dark sounding humbucker so putting it with the 250K pots would be horrible. However, I can also imagine that a dark bridge humbucker might balance nicely with the strat middle and neck pickups, allowing you to set your amp bright and have it sound good with any pickup setting.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:12 pm reply with quote
Uncle E wrote:
morelia wrote:
How could I get an idea of what the P Rails sound like?

The main benefit of the P-Rails is the versatile switching possibilities. As a straight humbucker, I personally think there are better things available.
Thanks. I'll look them up but to be honest I'm happy with a three way switch for variation. When funds allow I'll likely add Slash Alnicos unless there is a better idea pops up.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:29 pm reply with quote
morelia wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
morelia wrote:
How could I get an idea of what the P Rails sound like?

The main benefit of the P-Rails is the versatile switching possibilities. As a straight humbucker, I personally think there are better things available.
Thanks. I'll look them up but to be honest I'm happy with a three way switch for variation. When funds allow I'll likely add Slash Alnicos unless there is a better idea pops up.


I dont think I would put p-rails in any of my standard six string guitars but I am surprised more people have not used them in a baritone like I do...that dark sounding works well with a baritone Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:27 pm reply with quote
Hink wrote:
morelia wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
morelia wrote:
How could I get an idea of what the P Rails sound like?

The main benefit of the P-Rails is the versatile switching possibilities. As a straight humbucker, I personally think there are better things available.
Thanks. I'll look them up but to be honest I'm happy with a three way switch for variation. When funds allow I'll likely add Slash Alnicos unless there is a better idea pops up.


I dont think I would put p-rails in any of my standard six string guitars but I am surprised more people have not used them in a baritone like I do...that dark sounding works well with a baritone Thumbs Up!
I've spent too much time playing and not enough tinkering. Having said that I need every minute of play time just to maintain my current low standard of playing.

I wish I had more of an idea with guitar surgery but with this one I'm not so scared to mess up a little.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:31 pm reply with quote
morelia wrote:
Hink wrote:
morelia wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
morelia wrote:
How could I get an idea of what the P Rails sound like?

The main benefit of the P-Rails is the versatile switching possibilities. As a straight humbucker, I personally think there are better things available.
Thanks. I'll look them up but to be honest I'm happy with a three way switch for variation. When funds allow I'll likely add Slash Alnicos unless there is a better idea pops up.


I dont think I would put p-rails in any of my standard six string guitars but I am surprised more people have not used them in a baritone like I do...that dark sounding works well with a baritone Thumbs Up!
I've spent too much time playing and not enough tinkering. Having said that I need every minute of play time just to maintain my current low standard of playing.

I wish I had more of an idea with guitar surgery but with this one I'm not so scared to mess up a little.


We can talk you through it Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:15 pm reply with quote
posted by IK on FB



Rolling Eyes HiHi
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:44 pm reply with quote
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ibanez-RGT-42-SE-guitar-/30084719174 6?pt=Guitar&hash=item460be3d6c2

what's wrong with it? Neck-thru, 299, no bids Shrug
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:36 pm reply with quote
Hink wrote:
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Rolling Eyes HiHi


Laughing Awesome dude!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:41 pm reply with quote
Hink wrote:
morelia wrote:
Hink wrote:
morelia wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
morelia wrote:
How could I get an idea of what the P Rails sound like?

The main benefit of the P-Rails is the versatile switching possibilities. As a straight humbucker, I personally think there are better things available.
Thanks. I'll look them up but to be honest I'm happy with a three way switch for variation. When funds allow I'll likely add Slash Alnicos unless there is a better idea pops up.


I dont think I would put p-rails in any of my standard six string guitars but I am surprised more people have not used them in a baritone like I do...that dark sounding works well with a baritone Thumbs Up!
I've spent too much time playing and not enough tinkering. Having said that I need every minute of play time just to maintain my current low standard of playing.

I wish I had more of an idea with guitar surgery but with this one I'm not so scared to mess up a little.


We can talk you through it Smile
I'll be back Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:40 am reply with quote
Uncle E wrote:
woolyloach wrote:
I'll have to have a longer convo with the tech at GC - today I got a nice estimate for a straight swap, very affordable! Shit! Not sure I WANT all that switching, I just want to find a use for the P-Rails and replacing the 'bucker in my Strat is perfect.

Maybe it'll work out well. My first thought was that the P-Rail is already a dark sounding humbucker so putting it with the 250K pots would be horrible. However, I can also imagine that a dark bridge humbucker might balance nicely with the strat middle and neck pickups, allowing you to set your amp bright and have it sound good with any pickup setting.


I figure it's worth a shot. I tend more to heavy blues/jazz-rock at this stage in my life, dark would DEFINITELY be the tone for me!

I'd rather find a use for the thing than sell it, my JB Jr. and Pearly Gates have found a good home, so I'm happy-ish. Smile

Gotta save for the Nashville Tele now. I like the sound of the pickups in it, 2 Tex-Mex Tele pickups and a Tex-Mex Strat pickup in the middle. Schweet/! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:42 am reply with quote
Hink wrote:
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Rolling Eyes HiHi


The first bass with built-in hyper-drive!!! Shit! Shit!
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