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cocoazenith
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Postby cocoazenith; Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:25 am Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

Hello,

I'm trying to find a plugin that would allow me to control my synthesizer's Midi CC parameters straight
from an UI. I don't own a hardware Midi controller so this is essential for me. I am also a Macintosh user
so that can narrow the options a bit...

I guess am looking for something similar to Image Line's MIDI Out utility but in the form of a VST:
https://www.image-line.com/support/FLHe ... %20Out.htm

I've found: http://ctrlr.org but I don't know how to use it without designing the UI first. Also my
synth is not in their list of already made panels.

I only need to control a couple of Midi CCs. Nothing special. Also I've noticed that Propellerheads Reason's
External Instrument utility has already the option of controlling ONE midi cc parameter directly from the UI
but I'm trying to find something that would work in Cubase as well as Live 9.

Thanks!
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Postby aMUSEd; Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:34 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

Recontrolmidi does exactly that (and more, including support for MSB/LSB banks/patch changes and sysex)

http://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/
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Postby cocoazenith; Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:44 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

Thanks for the quick response.

Sorry. I forgot to mention I'm on a Macintosh computer...
I need exactly that but for Mac...
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Postby aMUSEd; Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:50 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

Ah, the fact that you mentioned ImageLine made me assume you were on Windows, well Reacontrolmidi is also a part of Reaper but not available as a separate plugin on Mac (yet, I hope sometime it will be). In Live I believe there are a number of M4L devices that can send midi to outboard gear and synths but not tried any. I have a Max device that sends midi and controls my VL70m.
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Postby cocoazenith; Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:58 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

Yeah, I've thought about Max having such devices. Unfortunately (or fortunately hehe) I only have Live 9 Standard.

The Image Line utility (which the best example for what I'm looking) was the first Google result :-D

Someone mentioned Blue Cat Audio's MIDI CC editor plugin on KVR some years ago
but that looks way too complex and it's too much of an investment for my basic needs.

Maybe I'll just get a Korg NanoKontrol 1 for change money and be done with it :)
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Postby sin night; Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:40 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

Cubase has the device panel feature, which allow for creating a panel to control the external devices... There are some user-created panels on the web...
For just a couple of CC, I think you may find something on the midi plugins of Cubase (sorry if I'm a bit vague, but I rarely use those features).

By the way, which synth do you want to control?
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Postby cocoazenith; Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:26 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

sin night wrote:Cubase has the device panel feature, which allow for creating a panel to control the external devices... There are some user-created panels on the web...
For just a couple of CC, I think you may find something on the midi plugins of Cubase (sorry if I'm a bit vague, but I rarely use those features).

By the way, which synth do you want to control?


Thanks. I am watching some tutorials right now to learn how to create such a device.
The synthesizer I want to control is Eowave Domino. You can activate its arrpegiator and an 8-step sequencer
by tweaking some MIDI CCs.
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Postby cocoazenith; Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:50 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

cocoazenith wrote:
sin night wrote:Cubase has the device panel feature, which allow for creating a panel to control the external devices... There are some user-created panels on the web...
For just a couple of CC, I think you may find something on the midi plugins of Cubase (sorry if I'm a bit vague, but I rarely use those features).

By the way, which synth do you want to control?


Thanks. I am watching some tutorials right now to learn how to create such a device.


Kinda difficult to comprehend. Also using Cubase Elements 8 is different from most tutorials...
I will start looking for user-created panels. Also still searching for a VST that does all this.
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sin night
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Postby sin night; Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:49 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

I'm afraid Element/Artist is lacking that feature (I should have asked which version you had). :?
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Postby cocoazenith; Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:04 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

sin night wrote:For just a couple of CC, I think you may find something on the midi plugins of Cubase (sorry if I'm a bit vague, but I rarely use those features).


That's right. You can control lots of CCs with the Quick Controls from the Inspector of a MIDI track in Cubase.
However this feature is only available in Cubase Artist and Pro...bummer...

In lack of a plug-in option I might consider upgrading or getting a cheap controller...

Topic is still open to suggestions.

Edit:
sin night wrote:I'm afraid Element/Artist is lacking that feature (I should have asked which version you had). :?


Yes, Artist has this option. Only LE/AI/Elements don't.
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Postby T-CM11; Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:14 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

cocoazenith wrote:Yes, Artist has this option. Only LE/AI/Elements don't.

Nope, Artist can't use device panels.
http://www.steinberg.net/fileadmin/file ... _Chart.pdf (this hasn't changed in Cubase Artist 8 )
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Postby T-CM11; Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:14 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

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Postby cocoazenith; Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:26 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

T-CM11 wrote:
cocoazenith wrote:Yes, Artist has this option. Only LE/AI/Elements don't.

Nope, Artist can't use device panels.
http://www.steinberg.net/fileadmin/file ... _Chart.pdf (this hasn't changed in Cubase Artist 8 )


Aha, yes. OK. Thought CA8 had mappings. But I don't necesarilly need mappings.

In the quoted text I was talking about an option that's in CA8 and CP8 and not in CE8.
It's the Track Quick Controls option and the Midi Control Plugin that you can actually
use to control any CC possible.

In the meantime I purchased an used Akai LPD-8 controller and it's working great for controlling
the CC that control the Domino's Seq and Arp.

Also I am considering on upgrading to CA8 just for the sake of it as they are having a 30% off sale now.
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Postby justin3am; Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:11 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

Might be over-kill for your purposes, but I have used the plug-in version of Numerology to transmit MIDI ccs to other plug-ins and hardware.
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Postby T-CM11; Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:18 am Re: Control my hardware's MIDI CCs via a plugin?

cocoazenith wrote:In the meantime I purchased an used Akai LPD-8 controller and it's working great for controlling
the CC that control the Domino's Seq and Arp.

I have this one for the quick controls:
https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/c ... mc_qc.html
I just love the illuminated feedback! :love:

cocoazenith wrote:Also I am considering on upgrading to CA8 just for the sake of it as they are having a 30% off sale now.

Me too, the upgrade page has been open in my browser for a couple of days now... :oops:
The stupid thing is, I'd just like to have the full version for a couple of small things, like a device map for my K1, record VST outputs to a track, batch export, ... :?
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