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Creating a Kontakt Player Instrument

Sampler and Sampling discussion (techniques, tips and tricks, etc.)

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vksf01
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33 posts since 14 Jun, 2004, from San Francisco

Postby vksf01; Thu May 13, 2010 1:38 pm Creating a Kontakt Player Instrument

Hi all,

How does one go about creating a standalone Kontakt Player instrument? So I would like to be able to create a standalone player, with a customised skin, etc. Do I have to sign up as a developer?

Thanks
Ben H
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1562 posts since 28 Jul, 2003

Postby Ben H; Thu May 13, 2010 2:25 pm

1. You create your instrument in the full Kontakt.
2. You pay the $5000+ licensing fee
3. You send your instruments to NI to be encoded.
vksf01
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33 posts since 14 Jun, 2004, from San Francisco

Postby vksf01; Thu May 13, 2010 3:55 pm

yikes!

$5000+ licensing fee?
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Gregjazz
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3837 posts since 17 Aug, 2004, from California, United States

Postby Gregjazz; Thu May 13, 2010 5:21 pm

DragonSagoth wrote:5000$?! Is it REALLY that much!?


$5000? Is it really that little!? Since last I checked, it's almost twice that.

Of course, it depends on the size of the library, retail price, whether it's a digital or physical purchase, and other factors.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
Ultra-realistic sample libraries for Kontakt

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EvilDragon
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9802 posts since 6 Jan, 2009, from Croatia

Postby EvilDragon; Thu May 13, 2010 6:09 pm

I can get a car for that sum (if it's really $10000+), damn!

(Or a brand new PC with 2 6-core Intel Xeons 5600, 48 GB of RAM, 1200W power supply, water cooling, big tower, a couple of bitchin' dual-DVI graphics cards AND 4 24" monitors to go along with it! Shit!)
koolkeys
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16079 posts since 2 Dec, 2003, from Nashville, TN

Postby koolkeys; Thu May 13, 2010 10:39 pm

DragonSagoth wrote:I can get a car for that sum (if it's really $10000+), damn!

(Or a brand new PC with 2 6-core Intel Xeons 5600, 48 GB of RAM, 1200W power supply, water cooling, big tower, a couple of bitchin' dual-DVI graphics cards AND 4 24" monitors to go along with it! Shit!)
Ooo, oohh, put me down for one of those.... :hyper:
Ben H
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1562 posts since 28 Jul, 2003

Postby Ben H; Thu May 13, 2010 10:47 pm

DragonSagoth,

Well I know of someone that was quoted $5000-7000 for the cheapest "package".
So I actually gave you the price at the lesser end of the scale.
But yeah, it's a lot of mulah. :shrug:
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Gregjazz
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3837 posts since 17 Aug, 2004, from California, United States

Postby Gregjazz; Thu May 13, 2010 11:36 pm

It's a serious investment, but definitely inexpensive compared to licensing prices for other software! I believe they split the licensing fee into two installments, one beforehand and the other within 60 days.
Greg Schlaepfer
Orange Tree Samples
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kbaccki
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1805 posts since 12 Sep, 2004

Postby kbaccki; Thu May 13, 2010 11:56 pm

And if you don't pay up by day 60 they send a guy named Tony to your studio and he smashes your RAID array with a baseball bat. It's true. Happened to my cousin's friend's brother.
venerable bede
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234 posts since 16 Oct, 2006

Postby venerable bede; Fri May 14, 2010 12:54 am

What about the free kontakt instruments out there?

How do they do it?
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iain_morland
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973 posts since 26 Sep, 2005, from UK

Postby iain_morland; Fri May 14, 2010 1:12 am

venerable bede wrote:What about the free kontakt instruments out there?

How do they do it?

Those aren't Kontakt Player instruments.

It's the player that's licensed to third-party developers.
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topaz
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3729 posts since 14 Jul, 2001, from Kent, UK

Postby topaz; Fri May 14, 2010 1:14 am

venerable bede wrote:What about the free kontakt instruments out there?

How do they do it?


you need the full kontakt to use them.
thysm00
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630 posts since 5 May, 2008, from France

Postby thysm00; Fri May 14, 2010 2:29 am

Well actually, it's more than twice that AND in euros... (at least that is what they were askin when i asked...) and this is per product :) So if you are not already rich, then it's not for you...
Your other options are simple:

- Make a library that doesn't requires scripts and try to licence another sampler
- make a kontakt one, but people will need the full kontakt sampler and also do side patches for all the other sampler that you can think of...

About the other samplers, it's not true, there are other platforms that offer licencing, you just have to ask to the devs, but for me it wasn't an option... i need the scrips...
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kbaccki
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1805 posts since 12 Sep, 2004

Postby kbaccki; Fri May 14, 2010 7:46 am

thysm00 wrote:Well actually, it's more than twice that AND in euros... (at least that is what they were askin when i asked...) and this is per product :)


Ouch, ouch, and ouch. And that's why quality player libraries are $350 - $500 a piece, while quality open format kontakt libraries are $150 - $250 a piece. So NI licensing alone is doubling the price to the consumer?

I love my kontakt libs and instruments, but there's a scary gotcha-by-the-short-and-curlies brewing here... :? We're one corp buyout away from the small open format vendors getting squeezed, leaving consumers with only the lucrative rompler market. We need an alternative high-performance streaming engine (Giga, anyone? :hihi:) with a supporting scripting/performance environment that makes it easy for vendors to port to and from NI-script.
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