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Royksopp - happy up there - A#major?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:18 am reply with quote
Hi,

Im trying to figure out this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klxai9aaxUw

Are they doing stuff with chromatism, or is it all within a key, with modulation to another key or something?!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:03 pm reply with quote
They move (modulate) between major and minor versions of the key. The A section with the main melody (Parliament Do That Stuff sample) is major, then it shifts to minor for the B vocoded-vocal section - it's a common trick but I'm a sucker for this kind of modulation, so it's no surprise to me that I love this song.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:37 am reply with quote
cool, thank you

do you know other examples with this "composing trick"?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:55 am reply with quote
flowdesigner wrote:
cool, thank you

do you know other examples with this "composing trick"?


If there's a songwriting technique that works, you can bet your butt the Beatles used it: http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/foth.shtml

Also, do a search on chromatic mediant on Google - basically it's dipping into the other mode for a single chord using either the mediant (III) or submediant (VI). Peggy Sue uses this - occasionally the term "Peggy Sue chord" pops up. Depeche Mode's Enjoy the Silence is another example.

And then there is the evil "wave your lighters in the air" IVm chord in a major key - the power balladeer's chord of choice.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:28 am reply with quote
Thank you, I will check that out.

Is the a major part somewhat in mixolydian mode? I think a major second fits more than a minor second between the g and a, no?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:36 pm reply with quote
"fool on the hill"

"The mode changes abruptly to minor as we enter the refrain, and the effect is quite chilling"

this is cool stuff indeed, I had not heard that track before
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:37 pm reply with quote
I'm guessing it's not in the raised submediant major of C# minor so probably call it Bb not A#. Wink

Cool track.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:42 pm reply with quote
if you sign up at royksopp.com one of the Tracks Of The Month (free member downloads) is an instrumental version of Happy Up Here
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:48 am reply with quote
does this use the same technique?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4S4fJ1qQjU
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