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One-Synth-Challenge: General discussion thread
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:02 pm reply with quote
Good idea, was thinking to have a theme or similar for the same reason but this might be the best way.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:47 am reply with quote
Does it really makes sens to avoid pre-composing?

Everybody who creates music has some unfinished ideas in the packet. For some of us these ideas are even 50% of our music creations (for some people even more). In this moment even if we put restriction about music style or synthesizer type in the compo, we have no 100% sure that all compositions were composed after syntch challenge started.

Adaptation of old composition for a new synthesizer may be realy quick process (even 2-3 days). Can we recognize this kind of adaptation process? I don't think so.

Second issue - sequences. If we have some our own universal bas-sequences, drum-sequences and etc., composed in advance...
Is it possible to adaptate these sequences for new synthesizer? I think so.
Is it allowed to use it? Of course not.
Is it possible to recognise if somebody use this trick? I don't think so.

I would be even happy if I compose a song for one synth challenge and because I didn't finish it before the deadline, I'm allowed tp adaptate new synth for the song and finish the composition in next month.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:18 am reply with quote
You're right there is no way of checking if people have composed something before other than check their Soundcloud, Facebook, Myspace etc, so a lot of this has to be based on the Honor System.

About sequences, the rule is anyway that the song must be composed specifically for the challenge, which means sequences are not really outlawed per se.

As for adapting songs to new synths, both me and others have been surprised how difficult it is when we have tried to convert One-Synth-Challenge entries to fave and top synths, and in many ways it's easier to write new stuff for the new synth.

So again, there is no real way to police this rule, but we can at least implement a few things to keep things more fair.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:53 pm reply with quote
Are you able guys to buy a pdf version of Beat Magazine or this issue is either a problem for you?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:13 pm reply with quote
They sell it as pdf version also? Are the software goodies included?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:19 am reply with quote
BIG ANOUNCE

Hi mates, i'm posting this message to let you know that June 21st Arturia will give away a free version of Arturia MiniMoog V, but only for that day, so set a reminder in your calendar, tell to your wife to make remember you, or whatever.

I'm saying this because MAYBE, we could use it SOMEDAY for OSC.
Although that's not sure yet, but we don't want people losing this chance in case we use it for OSC.

So please, remind that June 21st the Arturia MiniMoog V will be available for free only that day.
Anyway i'm sending a private message to all usual participants of OSC.

Arturia countdown for MiniMoog V

Don't miss it guys. Wink

(No, i'm not being payed by Arturia or something)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:11 pm reply with quote
Yes if many gets to download that day it makes sense to have it as an One-Synth-Challenge, so set your alarms for that day. Remember it's only available that day only!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:23 am reply with quote
I run Nukleus 'Beat Magazine' version of VSTi on my computer. I bought only pdf version of Beat Magazine. So finally I can say - it is possible but the whole procedure, to get the serial number, is still unrecognizable for me Smile.

In few simple steps, you have to:
1. Buy the pdf version of the Beat Magazine with Nuclear (you can buy old magazine versions up to six months).
2. In the magazine you will find the link, you have to go follow. When you open the link you have to register yourselfe.
3. When you recieve an email with serial number and another link to hamburg-audio.
4. When you download demo version of Nuklear it generates for you 'Computer ID' number.
5. When you go to hamburg-audio (you activate the link in the email form beat.de) and put serial number + computer ID for registration.
6.In this moment you have to wait to get the activation number which you put in the VSTi to unlock the demo.

This is the clue. I didn't recieve the activation number in few days. I though it is lost. I was suprised, yesterday I recieved official activation number after 1,5 months of waiting.
The only explanation may be, day before yesterday I bought a new Beat Magazine (pdf version) and I paid with paypal and I used the same email with paypal like email for Nuklear VSTi registration.

So, my sugestion is, if somebody is able to repeat the whole procedure like I did (with a risk that 3,99 Euro may go away!) but when he pay with paypal so the waiting time for activation code from hamburg would be much shorter.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:21 am reply with quote
That's interesting, but also a bit confusing. So you can buy Beat magazine as a PDF online? And you get Nuklear with it? How is the synth limited from the full version? Is everything in German?

Still very cheap if it's a polyphonic version of the synth, definitely something to consider if we're to do a music mag competition.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:34 pm reply with quote
V'ger wrote:
That's interesting, but also a bit confusing. So you can buy Beat magazine as a PDF online? And you get Nuklear with it? How is the synth limited from the full version? Is everything in German?

Still very cheap if it's a polyphonic version of the synth, definitely something to consider if we're to do a music mag competition.


You may buy pdf online but you must deal with German language. The same is with registering Nuklear, you will recieve some german language emails, some of them are in english and german.
In some KVR topics there were described some problems with buying Beat magazine for people outside Europe (problems durring paying procedure). I did not recognized these problems as my loco is in Europe.

The synth limitation is lack of polyphony Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:26 am reply with quote
Well German can be translated so I guess overcomeable, but shame with the lack of polyphony. Another option would be Dune which is in both Beat and CM, and is (I think) the full version without the effects section. Do you know if that's included in the PDF version of Beat?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:03 am reply with quote
V'ger wrote:
Well German can be translated so I guess overcomeable, but shame with the lack of polyphony. Another option would be Dune which is in both Beat and CM, and is (I think) the full version without the effects section. Do you know if that's included in the PDF version of Beat?


Dune Beat and CM version don't have the effects section, and the modulation pages its only for 12 routings (1 page only). Just that.
It would be a nice OSC.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:13 am reply with quote
On the OSC 41 voting thread V'ger wrote:
With so varying views on covers I guess it should really go to a vote, so will probably do that before next competition. With a rule vote it makes sense to include any other disputed points, so let me know if there are any. (best use the general discussion thread for that)

Since we are opening up the rules discussion, I would like to propose that DAW and MIDI automation is allowed on all legal effects.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:31 am reply with quote
But that's always been allowed, no rules against it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:50 am reply with quote
V'ger wrote:
But that's always been allowed, no rules against it.


V'ger, yes I should have checked again before posting this. I thought there was still some confusion based on Irion's reply to a question I had asked on the Minimogue submissions/gossip thread. But it seems Irion has removed his comment since then, and your response on that thread is actually pretty clear. As long as the effect automation doesn't change the sound beyond recognition, it is ok. So, please disregard my previous comment. Sorry for the confusion.
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