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dusted william · Post by **dusted william** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:53 pm

Will shreddage and (X) work with the kontakt 4 player?

Thanks,

dw

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:06 pm

Well, technically yes... but they will load in demo mode, so they time out after a little while. Thus is life as a small Kontakt developer

There isn't any affordable way for us to use Kontakt Player for our libraries.

That being said, we're porting the original Shreddage to Image-Line's DirectWave format, which is a bit more accessible. ShreddageX, for now, will remain Kontakt 4 only due to the fact that it has scripted legato.

SJMmusic · Post by **SJMmusic** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:18 pm

Sorry if thats a stupid question, but I wonder whether it would make sense for me to buy Shreddage (X) when I don't own Kontakt (and definitely won't be able to afford it for a long time

). So I wonder whether Shreddage is of much use if you don't really change any settings, but only use the presets or make small changes, because then reloading Kontakt player now and then wouldn't be much of a problem, I guess.
Thanks for your answer

tom27 · Post by **tom27** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:33 pm

sebaskopf wrote:Sorry if thats a stupid question, but I wonder whether it would make sense for me to buy Shreddage (X) when I don't own Kontakt

Based on comments from other user, Kontakt Player does currently not work well with Shreddage It will put you in so-called "demo mode", which requires a restart of Kontakt Player every 30 min. or so.

Of course you could e.g. play some phrases, freeze them (make an audio file) and continue working - but for sure, you won't benefit that much and will have to cope with the demo mode.

IMO most good sample libraries (except those provided by NI explicitly for Kontakt Player) do only make sense if you own the Kontakt Full Version.

kind regards
Tom

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:31 pm

Grab any future NI sales, Kontakt could be up to 50% cheaper then. Usually spring or Xmas or Thanksgiving.

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:03 am

Yes, and it's definitely worth getting. If you can get an academic discount, that can help too. $200 or so for Kontakt is an excellent deal. I can't really recommend using Shreddage without Kontakt just because it's annoying to worry about timeouts (not because you need to actually edit it - it sounds great out of the box.) But again, if you don't think you can afford Kontakt, look into DirectWave or DirectWave Player. We will be porting to that format soon.

SJMmusic · Post by **SJMmusic** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:27 am

Thank you for all these answers.
I'm just afraid of buying Kontakt now and later buying Komplete anyway. And if I got it right, I can't use educational discount, when I'm still going to school, so I guess I'd have to wait for a good offer or simply buy Shreddage and freeze my simple riffs

Sanrek · Post by **Sanrek** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:56 am

I'm in the same boat too.

I don't really want to buy Kontakt (which is in fact nearly as expensive as the whole Komplete package and so I would then spend the 100 extra to have the bundle) only for Shreddage...but I don't really see any other solution so I'll wait for the next special discount event.

Tansunn · Post by **Tansunn** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 1:52 am

Well, Shreddage does come with all samples in easily accessible .WAV files, so you don't necessarily need Kontakt to use it. I'd estimate having Kontakt makes Shreddage about 1,369 times easier to work with, though.

Sanrek · Post by **Sanrek** » Mon May 02, 2011 12:57 pm

True enough, although I've been getting lazy on this kind of topic lately (Not used to do sample bank instruments myself anymore except on my good old E-mu Esynth Ultra but for other reasons).

And trying to remap everything to a playable instrument in EXS24 (or other) is...well in the end I'll just bite my teeth and purchase Kontakt I guess (Although already having the whole east west collection and Omnisphere I just didn't want to add another oversized sample bank vst doing triple use)