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hibidy wrote: Hink wrote: hibidy wrote: All comments, positive and negative are desired
I think I recorded it way too hot (clipping input signal) the beginning sounds like what I called 'the charvel sound' in the 80s I knew it was the Charvel also - Its the maple snap and alder spank that gives it away btw i think plus no mistaking the pups |
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This track is about 7 years old. I played my crappy Epiphone Emperor Regent DI'd through an Avalon U5. Skip ahead to around 2:20 for where the guitars come in or around 4:15 for when the solo comes in:
www.jrrshop.com/eric/Eric_Dahlberg-Tryin_To_Do_More.mp3 |
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Dean Aka Nekro wrote: hibidy wrote: Hink wrote: hibidy wrote: All comments, positive and negative are desired
I think I recorded it way too hot (clipping input signal) the beginning sounds like what I called 'the charvel sound' in the 80s plus no mistaking the pups that's it exactly, I cannot put into words the sound but my Charvel model 4 (that got stolen) was the same way. ---- I never learned anything from being right Hink 2012 RIP Reason L. and Ian B |
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Uncle E wrote: This track is about 7 years old. I played my crappy Epiphone Emperor Regent DI'd through an Avalon U5. Skip ahead to around 2:20 for where the guitars come in or around 4:15 for when the solo comes in:
www.jrrshop.com/eric/Eric_Dahlberg-Tryin_To_Do_More.mp3 I like the tune, like the playing but I cannot comment on the guitar tone itself only because for my tastes there is way too much reverb which makes it hard for me to hear the guitar tone. I have a similar such song The Whisper ( http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=146867 bottom of page) and tbh without the reverb wash it wouldn't sound right (fwiw that song is about as old as yours and written from a poem my father wrote in 1941..I never knew until I wrote this for him after getting a book of poems he wrote from my mother that my father actually could write poetry). I think the playing and tone fits your song very well Eric, I also think it's a good example of part of the disscussion in this thread about just that. How does the guitar sound outside of the mix? Pretty cool though, thanx for posting it...it was a nice unofficial start to my day ---- I never learned anything from being right Hink 2012 RIP Reason L. and Ian B |
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yairhol wrote: Was it mentioned that "tone" is in the fingers and less in the actual gear.
+1 as a generalization -1 for accuracy...as I say often enough (and again this seems to upset certain people) it's not the gear that makes the player but the player that makes the gear. It's more than just the fingers ---- I never learned anything from being right Hink 2012 RIP Reason L. and Ian B |
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It reminded me of my old les paul custom running direct into an 80's alesis midiverb with the bridge pickup on and recorded under (without the sustain). It didn't sound like it went through an amp or a direct box. Even clean guitar settings need a little saturation.
The entire piece had to much reverb and headroom. That much headroom doesn't work well with few and sparse sounding instruments. The driving feel of the piece would have been better served with bgm eq and a hard knee compression setting on the drums ---- Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here. |
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tapper mike wrote: It reminded me of my old les paul custom running direct into an 80's alesis midiverb with the bridge pickup on and recorded under (without the sustain).
Sad. I'll go ahead and blame that on the bad guitar tone going in. Quote: Even clean guitar settings need a little saturation.
Agreed Quote: The entire piece had to much reverb and headroom. That much headroom doesn't work well with few and sparse sounding instruments. The driving feel of the piece would have been better served with bgm eq and a hard knee compression setting on the drums
Yup, I totally agree with all that. Maybe I'll revisit the mix some day. |
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Here's a remix I did for Paul Oakenfold that never got released, it features the triple fuzz pedal I built, which is basically a Fuzz Face feeding a Companion Fuzz feeding a triangle Big Muff:
www.jrrshop.com/eric/the_slant-sleep_remix.mp3 btw, I did a Killers-ish version of this song, too, with me singing through a Cooper Time Cube. I'll upload it when I find it. |
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I liked my les paul it's just back then I couldn't go through an amp/preamp to properly shape the tone and the hard slapback did the opposite of what it should have it cutoff the tone rather theh emphasis it. Re epi regent. I'm a big fan of jazz boxes especially es 175's and Howard Roberts Fusion III but epi's do nothing for me. I've got a samick with the same body as a regent and the tone is vastly different.
My Samick box, not me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqvjPKwuCo Re slant-sleep Not enough attack for my tastes. the feedback sounds clipped. Otherwise the mix sounds great. ---- Oh no, that's next door. It's being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here. |
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Uncle E wrote: This track is about 7 years old. I played my crappy Epiphone Emperor Regent DI'd through an Avalon U5. Skip ahead to around 2:20 for where the guitars come in or around 4:15 for when the solo comes in:
www.jrrshop.com/eric/Eric_Dahlberg-Tryin_To_Do_More.mp3 TBH, I like it. I can't picture it w/o all the reverb.......that fits with the music imho. I like all those tunes ![]() Last edited by hibidy on Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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tapper mike wrote: Re epi regent. I'm a big fan of jazz boxes especially es 175's and Howard Roberts Fusion III but epi's do nothing for me.
Yup. I've never played another guitar that looks so good yet sounds so bad. I considered upgrading the pickup and then decided it's not worth the money. Quote: Not enough attack for my tastes. the feedback sounds clipped.
Yeah, three cascaded fuzzes will do that. |
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Wonderful variety guys.......love it! |
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Ok some ear gnawing probably for you guys but will post it anyway, This is two tracks from around 2007 that were gonna go on a split EP, I was/had to pull out as i was in court getting custody of my daughter and of course i "won" so that was my two kids with me then. I have alot more i will continue to post over time:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4ov7rhhxhcc56cl/01.%20Track%20 One%20From%20Unreleased%20Split%20EP%28Final%29.mp3 http://www.mediafire.com/file/u4obuthff2e24q5/02.%20Track%20 Two%20From%20Unreleased%20Split%20EP%20%28Final%29.mp3 Eric you should revist/revise/remix and close the book on it i think as then its 'finished' and your free to totally move on. Use yer black pearl and PRS SE with maybe an eventide space pedal (borrow one from work for a night or whatever) Cheers and please guys rip my shit apart, Drums and main vocal are not me but everything else from tracking/engineering to mixing homebrew 'mastering' i am guilty Edit: mediafire requires actually downloading the tracks even though they appear to be clickable as listenable links Dean |
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