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dave dove · Post by **dave dove** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:11 am

i know i'll get flamed for this:

i have both ableton live 8 and presonus S1 pro
i've been using live for a couple years
i'm now exploring S1
they sound completely different

i've read up on this and understand most what people are saying
but
it can't be the sampling engines 'cos i use mostly vsts
it can't be pan laws 'cos it's the same in mono
i'm not saying either is better
but they are so different

i'll try post up some examples
if i get time and can work out how to transfer a simple project between them....

dave

GeorgeZ · Post by **GeorgeZ** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:24 am

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:25 am

If you do an error-analysis (which means to just break things down one by one and look, where the differences appear), you will find out, that you are actually doing different things in both DAW programs.

This is the only reason, why it sounds different.

maxxxter · Post by **maxxxter** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:44 am

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soulmelt · Post by **soulmelt** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:54 am

I agree, i have been using studio one and live. live stretch engine does alter sound. I use repitch where possible. Also think studio one has great rich sound.

check out my music

http://soundcloud.com/soulmelt

http://soulmelt.com/

xamido · Post by **xamido** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:07 pm

No point of discussing this one. All of us know that deep inside we hear things differently when they are run through different DAW. But we cannot explain it in scientific way. I'd think of this as a true placebo effect. People can smash all of these differences scientifically but we just know that it's different.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:20 pm

A DAW doesn't sound different. What sounds different is your soundcard. How your DAW interacts with the ASIO. I had the generic soundcard and installed an M-Audio Audiophile. Guess what? My DAW sounded better. I had cheap Sony headphones and got some JBL's. It sounded even better.
I also think it's the drivers you use. When I did synths in SE I ran it on non-ASIO drivers. (SE would freak out if you tried to run ASIO) When the new version came out, ASIO was no longer an issue, so I ran it on that. Seemed to my ears there was a minute difference. Enough for me to want to run it on ASIO.

dave dove · Post by **dave dove** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:57 pm

i'm not using live's "stretch engine"
'cos i'm not using samples
i want to use S1 for it's workflow
and live for live use
but i can't figure why they sound so different
my ears aren't stupid...

the soundcard is the same for both softwares
and whilst it may be that i am doing something differently
i don't know what it is
and for me to use both i need to resolve this difference...

dave

Raddler · Post by **Raddler** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:10 pm

I don't care what anyone says, every DAW has it's own character sound. Some being better than others. Ableton is low on the list imo.

damoog · Post by **damoog** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:21 pm

without sounding arrogant i am completely convinced that S1 pro just blows everything out of the water sound wise,it just sounds so rich without applying anything to it,it has a polished sound to it almost on its own...i also think record(and r6 of course) also have a superior sound to almost all other DAWS

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:24 pm

I get a distinct hint of lemon and wild jasmine from Cubase. There's more of a hint of sandalwood in Sonar, but it's balanced by wild burst of blackcurrent aromas.

UltraJv · Post by **UltraJv** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:25 pm

Here we go - this comes up frequently on KVR, usually ending in tears, insults and bans. How about posting A vs B tests, including null tests. That way we can get the nasty stuff out the way and get the kitty pics up quicker

There is another way of course, check this thread on different DAW sounds :

http://www.3daudioinc.com/3db/showthrea ... -Platforms

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:36 pm

Yeah p!sses me off too.
I was out on the w/e, drunk as a skunk & tripping balls. Having a wicked night.
Then a track came on and I knew straight away it was recorded in Logic. Totally ruined my night. Simply couldnt dance to it.
If only they had of used Cubase...

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:56 pm

imageline have resorted to a permanent page to address the supposed "FLstudio sound" - and DAW wars generally

http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=45272

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:03 pm

Raddler wrote:I don't care what anyone says,

Good for you!

Dan

difference in sound...