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Step up to the next level of Mobile Audio Interfaces
The new Stealth CS series of mobile audio interfaces combines powerful audio interfaces with the revolutionary AmpliTube Custom Shop software. The Stealth CS series of interfaces includes the StealthPlug CS and the StealthPedal CS. Both are extremely intuitive and transparent interfaces with near-zero latency. The A/D & D/A converters feature sample rates up to 48kHz, and can be used with your favorite DAW (including Pro Tools 10) or in a live setting.
AmpliTube Custom Shop The core of the Custom Shop packages is AmpliTube Custom Shop software, IK's revolutionary tone software that allows players to build virtual guitar rigs one piece at a time with gear models from the world's top manufacturers. It comes complete with 24 pieces of gear, a digital chromatic tuner and two complete guitar/bass signal chains for mono and/or stereo operation. You can also get gear a la carte from the top makers, Open 24/7: Fender, Ampegฎ, Orangeฎ, Soldanoฎ, T-Rexฎ, Seymour Duncanฎ, Groove Tubesฎ and more StealthPlug USB Audio Interface Cable The StealthPlug CS "Custom Shop" is one of the most affordable ways to get started making guitar music on your laptop. It features the StealthPlug ผ" to USB cable interface, and the new AmpliTube Custom Shop software plus 50 gear credits to use in the AmpliTube Custom Shop online store. StealthPedal USB Audio Interface and Controller The StealthPedal CS "Custom Shop" is the next step up for mobile guitar and bass players. It features the StealthPedal wah-style usb audio interface and controller, plus AmpliTube Custom Shop software and 100 gear credits to use in the AmpliTube Custom Shop online store. The StealthPedal serves two purposes: getting your guitar signal to and from your laptop, and controlling software knobs from the floor while you play. And all the magic happens in a nice, compact wah-style housing something already very familiar to players. Pricing and Availability The StealthPlug CS and StealthPedal CS packages are available from the IK Multimedia web store, or select IK Multimedia music instrument retailers and distributors around the world. StealthPlug CS is priced at $99.99/74.99 (excluding taxes). StealthPedal CS is priced at $229.99/174.99 (excluding taxes). Last edited by Brian @ IK Multimedia on Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:56 am; edited 1 time in total |
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StealthPedal CS and StealthPlug CS are here just in time for Christmas! These are the perfect gifts for a beginning or advanced guitarist. Whether it's mobility or peace and quiet that's needed, these CS Mac/PC audio interfaces are stealthy indeed! Watch the video, then read more here: http://www.ikmultimedia.com/NewsDisplay.php?Id=3388
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Especially in case of the StealthPlug you folks should seriously re-consider a) your product and b) your marketing.
I mean, you're just lying straight away. Prove? Sure! http://www.ikmultimedia.com/stealthplug/features/ Look at that picture. How is that going to work? It just won't. There's no output cable connected. Also, on that site it says:"With the StealthPlug, you get 9 full feet of room to stretch out, stand up, jump jive and wail.". Are you goddamn kidding me? The hardware quality of the StealthPlug has to be called mediocre at best - in fact, it's utter shite! Sealed plugs, are you kidding me again? If something breaks in a guitar cable, it's very likely that it's gonna be the plug on the guitar side. If that happens to the StealthPlug you'll have to cut it off, hence making the distance between guitar and interface (which is WAY WAY WAY too short to even start with) even shorter. Look at that picture again! NOBODY with a sane mind will EVER use an audio interface that way. NOBODY! Bottomline: Stay away from that toy-ish kiddie stuff. Concept-wise it's a great idea but the actual realisation must be made by people with absolutely no clue! And yes, before you accuse me of being overly angry: I own a StealthPlug and know *exactly* what I'm talking about! ---- There are 3 kinds of people: Those who can do maths and those who can't. |
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Sorry Sascha, but I'm not following you on this one. A different audio output can be selected, which is the case in this photo. It's easy to do on a Mac from your audio software, and it can be done without much difficulty on Windows by using ASIO4ALL.
I would also take issue with your characterization of the build quality. The StealthPedal utilizes a solid metal case that is at least as rugged as a CryBaby. As for the StealthPlug, the quality is as high as any USB cable out there. You say "if something breaks in a guitar cable, it's very likely that it's gonna be the plug on the guitar side." Has anything broken in your StealthPlug? THat's pretty unlikely, and if not, then everything you're saying is actually just conjecture. |
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Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote: Sorry Sascha, but I'm not following you on this one. A different audio output can be selected, which is the case in this photo. It's easy to do on a Mac from your audio software, and it can be done without much difficulty on Windows by using ASIO4ALL.
Come on, you gotta be kidding me. Aggregate devices under OSX are in no way as efficient as "plain" Core Audio drivers, let alone potential synchronisation issues. The same is true for ASIO4All under Windows. And please dont tell me you're marketing the Stealthplug for people really knowing how to set up an aggregate device or a properly working ASIO4All scenario. Quote: I would also take issue with your characterization of the build quality. The StealthPedal utilizes a solid metal case that is at least as rugged as a CryBaby.
Might be. I've been talking about the StealthPlug, which is anything but rugged. Quote: As for the StealthPlug, the quality is as high as any USB cable out there.
Ahem. Better make that "as low as any USB cable". A sealed plug on the guitar side of things isn't high quality at all. Quote: You say "if something breaks in a guitar cable, it's very likely that it's gonna be the plug on the guitar side." Has anything broken in your StealthPlug? THat's pretty unlikely, and if not, then everything you're saying is actually just conjecture.
During my life as a guitarist I had numerous cables break on either connection side. And obviously I didn't want to take the risk with the StealthPlug. That's why the first thing I did was soldering a mono extension cable. I don't want my audio interface to swing free, like da monkey in da tree - or whatever. - Sascha ---- There are 3 kinds of people: Those who can do maths and those who can't. |
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I see what he is saying.. and can agree that having the actual AI in the air like that is dangerous. If only that length of total cable is availble, I'd rather the USB side of the cable been much shorter and the guitar cable side much longer. Or, even better, have the other end of the Stealthplug be a female connector so we could use any length cable into that.
I also wish it had MME/DirectSound drivers beyond that, in a later version, it would be great to have 24-bit 44khz support. probably not the most important thing in a guitar AI. However, it would make it much more attractive (with the inclusion of MME/DirectSound driver) as a basic AI. Oh and a slider wheel instead of the buttons for volume. ---- "Use the talents you possess, for the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except the best." - Henry Van Dyke |
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VitaminD wrote: I see what he is saying.. and can agree that having the actual AI in the air like that is dangerous. If only that length of total cable is availble, I'd rather the USB side of the cable been much shorter and the guitar cable side much longer. Or, even better, have the other end of the Stealthplug be a female connector so we could use any length cable into that.
*Exactly*! Pretty much the reason why the first thing I did was soldering an extra cable. Quote: I also wish it had MME/DirectSound drivers
Oh, it doesn't? Can't tell because I'm on OSX and the Core Audio driver seems to work quite well. Quote: beyond that, in a later version, it would be great to have 24-bit 44khz support. probably not the most important thing in a guitar AI. However, it would make it much more attractive (with the inclusion of MME/DirectSound driver) as a basic AI.
24bit would be welcomed here, too. And yes, especially for DI guitars you do need quite some headroom. Quote: Oh and a slider wheel instead of the buttons for volume.
Absolutely! Those buttons aren't exactly comfortable to deal with. But oh well, you can't exactly use them anyway, with the thing swinging around like a mad chimp all the time... - Sascha ---- There are 3 kinds of people: Those who can do maths and those who can't. |
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Btw, Brian: What do you exactly call "near-zero" latency?
Just wondering, because I certainly can spot the latency when playing through headphones, even at 64 samples buffersize. Did you reduce the internal safety buffers more or less massively? - Sascha ---- There are 3 kinds of people: Those who can do maths and those who can't. |
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StealthPlug and StealthPedal are both 24bit, and always have been. Not sure where that is coming from. Latency is going to depend on your system, but you should have no problem getting below 256 samples on a modern machine. A buffer of 64 samples at 44.1kHz is about 1.5ms, and 1.3ms at 48kHz. Can you really hear that? |
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Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote: A buffer of 64 samples at 44.1kHz is about 1.5ms, and 1.3ms at 48kHz. Can you really hear that?
it depends on what you are doing, if you're layering tracks while monitoring previously laid tracks you bet your sweet bippy I can hear it. Not in timing though but in the form of comb filtering before you go on about 1'=1ms please take note that I wear headphones while miking a cab ---- I never learned anything from being right Hink 2012 RIP Reason L. and Ian B |
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Brian @ IK Multimedia wrote: StealthPlug and StealthPedal are both 24bit, and always have been. Not sure where that is coming from. Latency is going to depend on your system, but you should have no problem getting below 256 samples on a modern machine. A buffer of 64 samples at 44.1kHz is about 1.5ms, and 1.3ms at 48kHz. Can you really hear that?
Brian, as someone working for a company such as IKMM and as someone announcing such products at KVR, you should *really* get your act together a bit better! And hell yes, I'm serious! First off: No, the first generation StealthPlug is *not* allowing to record at 24bit. It even said so on the website, so *I* did at least know that when I bought it. I have no idea how that information slipped your attention. Then, about latencies: We are dealing with audio software monitoring, hence any buffersizes you set in your host come *twice*, once for the input, once for the output. So at 64 samples buffersize we're talking about 3ms, not 1.5. Of course, that still wouldn't be too bad. But then: As you should know, each and every audio interface on earth comes with additional "safety buffers". These are usually undocumented (there's a few exceptions, such as RME). And they can be rather huge! And finally there's converter latency. For good or HQ converters, there should be no more than 1-2ms added, but as said, that's good to HQ converters... All that stuff adds up: For instance, on my Macbooks internal interface, it's that they add around 13 ms (at 44.1), regardless of the buffersizes I set in whatever host. With my M-Audio FW 400 (which, at least for its age, is doing ok) at 64 samples the "run-through" latency ist still just slightly below 10ms and when I compared the StealthPlug (which I didn't measure, I could actually do that...), it felt like a bit more. And for me personally, anything around 10ms (and of course below) is rather ok, I only really feel the latency under headphones, but once it get's higher (which is the case with StealthPlug V1...), thing's start to become a real issue at some points. It's only the experienced makers of mid to high end interfaces, that really manage to get their act together, so they offer fast converters and low safety buffer sizes (RME, Motu, Apogee, Lynx and the likes). And for USB connected interfaces, it has been almost a revolution when RME came out with their FF UC, finally offering latency values that are quite on par with their PCI series. Whatever, I'm really sorry, but I don't think IKMM can offer the same level of experience and built quality as, say, RME. At least the StealthPlug 1 wasn't even remotely close to the ballpark. Hence, I would take *any* bet that in a run-through latency test, you could most likely not go below 10ms (at 44.1), probably still higher. Well, you should know all that "latency 101" when you announce your products here - but apparently you don't. That's a shame, really. I should add that you really tried to tell me it'd be normal to use aggregate devices or multi-soundcard routings through ASIO4All. Sorry Brian, mission absolutely not accomplished. - Sascha ---- There are 3 kinds of people: Those who can do maths and those who can't. |
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I was checking the manuals out today, wow you can attach a 2nd expression pedal and a 2-way button, not to mention a side knob can send CC's.
I'm too lazy to Ebay my Behringer FCB1010 at the moment, but the positives of this unit have really never even been discussed. I mean I don't want Amplitube even if it was free. |
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Regarding - "I mean I don't want Amplitube even if it was free" - Well, that's a preference for sure, but that's kind of like saying "I wouldn't want a marshall, even if it was free", or, "I wouldn't want a fender, even if it was for free". Seriously, if you can't find some good tone with Amplitube you need to keep practicing....As with any 'amplifier' whether it's implemented in hardware OR software - each piece of gear has its sweet spots - and the trick from my perspective is finding them, and then exploiting it. You can't force certain amps into certain tones - given your particular guitar, and pickups, which have a HUGE effect on the end result. But you can find good tones...From my perspective a StealthPedal and Amplitube are potent tools. Come hear me play live and I'll prove it (grin).... |
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Darn, another Amplitube zombie thread. Was hoping for some fresh meat,
and flames for bar-B-que, and it's just forum necromancy. Well, since the dead are awake, yes its all true, some things are flimsy, some things are sturdy, some people don't like what others love, and some people can make fine music with just software. cheers |
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Zombie thread? - Nah....we can take some head-cutting, what 'ya got bruddah? (grin) |
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