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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:35 am reply with quote
sches wrote:
Hey Björn! Winter came to us at last in all its charm. Frost, lots of snow, sun shines, blinking everywhere. Weather came alive here!

Now I'm finishing a small update with fixes and slight performance improvements. Soon it will be available. But the more interesting is that I have completed one cool thing, it will come in February, so stay on the line. Smile


what's the ETA for the Mac version?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:43 am reply with quote
sches wrote:
But the more interesting is that I have completed one cool thing, it will come in February, so stay on the line. Smile

Oooooh, I'm excited Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:42 am reply with quote
djinsomniak wrote:
what's the ETA for the Mac version?


I have problems with Mac development setup. I'd start Mac version right now, but I'm not able to. Sad Though the development is suspended now, I'll resume it later when the problems become solved. Sorry for that.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:26 pm reply with quote
I just found http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/computers-software/virtua l-instruments/diversion-522031/review


Wheeeeeee Well Done

They must have run out of paint when filling the fifth star though, now it looks like it only got 4.5! Crazy world.. crazy world indeed.


Im looking forward to February when that mystic secret cool thing will step into the spotlight ... what can it be..... what can it be. Very Happy

I hope everything is well with you. The news said we'll have a russian winter here this week. Snow and well below zero. Troy say's thanks Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:03 pm reply with quote
Personally I like 9/10 score, it's honest since Diversion is CPU hog. I think it can't have 5 full stars as the final score today, at least until Core Quads and Duos are still used by e-musicians.

I won't torment you and will post more information about that secret soon Smile
We have 15 below zero here, I missed that! Don't forget to send my kindest regards to Troy!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:05 am reply with quote
Hi guys, Diversion 1.11 is out. This is not a significant update, so I'm posting it here. Main purpose of this update is to fix annoying bugs, which can sometimes occur on some setups. Here is the list of changes:

    - Fixed crash rarely occurred when switching presets
    - Fixed CPU spike observed in Studio One
    - Slightly reduced overall CPU load
    - Envelopes now can be modulated by LFOs and MSEGs
    - Fixed possible noise burst when playing sawtooth wave
    - Fixed problems with scrolling in Preset Browser

You could download new version from here:

http://diversion-synth.com/DiversionSetupWin.exe

Thanks for letting me know about the bugs, have a nice day!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:27 am reply with quote
Of all emails that gets me excited, one from this thread when sches has replied are the best! Very Happy

Tell me about "Envelopes now can be modulated by LFOs and MSEGs" please Smile
Are the destinations in mod matrix for the envelopes new? I've never thought of modulating them, but i think i've seen them there before? Can't check with older version as i already installed new.

You can get some really nice rythms by modulating decay with an lfo! Thank you!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:56 am reply with quote
Thanks Björn! No, there are no new mod destinations for envelopes. Just old ones didn't work Embarassed Now it's fixed. You are 100% right, I can't say that this possibility is valuable, but it makes sence when modulating decays/attacks for sequenced patches.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:14 pm reply with quote
Brilliant - thanks a lot for this update!!!

Cheers,

Tom
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:41 pm reply with quote
You are welcome Tom, thanks for your support with fixing those bugs! If you'll find another ones, let me know please and we'll kill them all. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:46 am reply with quote
Hehehe - cool.

BTW. Part of the problem with Studio One was user error on my side - when I updated to Studio One Pro v2 last year, I did set the internal bit depth to 64 Bit for testing and later forgot about it. This way I got spikes that overloaded my CPU from just one voice with some sounds.
When I finally remembered and returned the setting to 32 Bit internal precision, the processor strain from Diversion was reduced by half. Embarassed
Just thought I mention that here in case somebody else encounters the problem as well.


Too bad I'm a bit crowded with other work at the moment, so my soundset for Diversion will probably take quite a bit longer than I did hope...

Cheers and thanks!

Tom
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:10 am reply with quote
Thanks Tom for sharing your experience! It would be great if it helps anybody with the same troubles. Good luck with the soundbank!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:55 pm reply with quote
I find myself almost always only using osc1 and 2. Anyone else having a similar experience? Im not sure why but i have thought of it a couple of times. Maybe it's because the sound image is full already or that i tweaked osc 1 and 2 so much i cant take it no more Laughing.

Dmitry, i was wondering how the osc bus knob is set up. Sometimes i find it great to assign the master x to those and have different "mixes" with the filters. A fairly simple way to use the master x/y but effective. Though it would seem that when the bus is in the middle, the perceived sound level is lower. I know with guitar potentiometers there's a certain type of mix (to blend pickup 1 and 2) which makes sure that the volume is the same from min to max.
Would this be possible to do? Or are my ears just deceiving me? It isn't too hard to compensate by adding some level modulation into the master x, but it is one or two less modulation slots! And believe it or not, but i have managed to hit the wall at page 4! Very Happy Help

If you for instance set osc 1 bus to master x and osc 2 bus to master y and then just have different filters and effects you get such an easy way to add lots of variation to the master x/y. It works fine even if you have opened up the bus1->2 send but compensate for levels.

Oh.. -13°C this morning ..... it was cooooold Shit!
This weekend it's supposed to be worse but after that there's spring apparently! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:03 pm reply with quote
Dmitry,

I still seem to get the funny scroll/duplication bug in 1.11 64 Bit.
I currently go through the "Flyinger 1.0" presets with the browser open.
I scroll down to "LEAD Singer" in the first column (last entry in the first column for me).
Then I scroll up to get to the first preset in the second column, but like before, there are 18 presets from the bottom of the first column listed on top of the second column, so "LEAD Singer" appears again in the middle of the second column.
The same happens with "LEAD Vangelis" in the second and third column.

I can send you screenshots if you want.

Cheers,

Tom
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:22 am reply with quote
Björn, in many cases two Diversion's oscs is enough for creating complete sound. Each single osc able to produce very complex sounds. In general the plugin can be considered as a two layer synth. OSC1+2 and BUS1 are the first layer, OSC3+4 and BUS2 are the second one. So it is normal when most of patches involve only two oscs.

Bus knob is a simple router. It splits osc's output into two signals and feeds them to the buses. When both buses have identical setting, the bus knob has no effect, if there is also no separate processing in FX matrix. When the buses have different options the output sound usually changes its volume in response to bus knob tweaking. The reason is that actually you mix two different signals at the output of two buses. When you tweak the bus knob you change not only volume of each bus output, but it's content too. So it is normal when the output volume changes since mixing result of two different signals depends on their timbres. There is no way for compensation because it is impossible to predict volume changes.

Tom, could you give me please two screenshots before and after scrolling? Afraid I'm missing something here.
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