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ThomasHelzle
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:54 am reply with quote
Here you go:

This is the first column scrolled down to the bottom:



And this is what I see if I just scroll to the top without changing selection:



As you can see, 18 entries that were in the first column are duplicated on top of the second and "LEAD Singer" which was selected at the bottom of the first column is also selected in it's second incarnation in the second column. (You may need to download the images full size to see it clearly - KVR scales them down).

This happens with all library directories that have more entries than fit into the browser at once.
This is the same bug I encountered originally before 1.11 as well.

StudioOne v2.04 64 Bit, Diversion 64 Bit on Win 7 Pro 64 Bit.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 10:57 am reply with quote
Thanks Tom for the pictures! Now I can see that nontraditional scrolling for files I implemented maybe wasn't a good idea. It looks a bit embarrassing. Actually this is not a bug. When you click on the empty space of the scrollbar on the first image, browser tries to scroll the whole page up (60 items). In other words the browser tries to show BASS SEX 2 (the first invisible file) at the bottom cell of the third column. But there are only 18 hidden files, so the first file is shown at the first cell and you have the second picture above. Try to click on the scrollbar and drag it to see how the file scrolling works. The problem fixed in this update was a bug with unnecessary automatic scrolling when clicking on cells of the browser.

Yes, it seems that is would be better to implement standard column scrolling with horizontal scrollbar, like in Windows Explorer in List View mode. I think it would be more convenient?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:03 pm reply with quote
I love the presetbrowser as it is We're not worthy....

I get every preset i have in 10 rows and 30 columns or so.




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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:27 am reply with quote
Sches: LOL - that simply never occurred to me Embarassed

I personally would say one needs a very good reason to go against the grain of the established in areas like a file browser. In this case it does no real harm, but I don't see much benefit either?

The expected behaviour for me would have been, that the content of the three columns stays the same and scrolls up as a whole to reveal what's below.
You would actually need less scrolling, only 6 lines for the 18 additional presets that don't fit in the window instead of 18 lines scrolling through all 3 columns.
Not significant in this case, but if somebody would put 256 presets in one folder it could be Wink

Scrolling horizontally revealing additional columns to the right would be another option, but I'd actually prefer vertical in this case...

But you definitely don't have to change it for me, now that I finally got it.
Although honestly I personally would vote for the obvious over the non-standard when it comes to browsing... Wink


Crackbaby: The File Browser is great when you go through new preset libraries, since it stays open while you step through the sounds. The Dropdown is getting annoying pretty fast in that case - at least to me Wink

Cheers and thanks!

Tom
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:01 am reply with quote
Oh doh Laughing

I totally misunderstood! Nevermind me! I don't think i have used the preset browser yet Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:52 am reply with quote
Thanks Tom for your time, I'll do something here. I need some time to think which way would be better. Good thing that there is no lots of code needed. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:06 am reply with quote
Hi guys, if you read Computer Music Mag you have noticed that the next issue CM 176 will come with a free DiversionFX multi-effect. Further I'll post more details, now just a head up. Here is a screenshot:



Here is a bigger one.

This effect will be included in CM Studio, it means that the plugin will be available on every CM's DVD since 176 issue. The plugin isn't a cut down version. It's a fully featured Diversion in the form of FX. All filter modes from the synth, Lo-Fi, 10 FXs, 32-step Trancegate, LFOs and MSEGs. I must admit it's a monsterous plug with lots of features and tons of modulations Smile. Hope you will like it!

In order to get it you need to buy any CM issue with DVD starting from 176. I think it's a good deal since there are many great free plugins, samples and other stuff on those DVDs.
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ThomasHelzle
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:12 am reply with quote
Wow - cool!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:29 am reply with quote
Great! Hopefully this plugin gets you masses of new customers.

I suppose it's CM exclusive, that is, not available for existing customers of the "full" synth?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:52 am reply with quote
Slap me on the face!! Watta.... Shocked

Damn cooooool!! Very Happy

Next CM is a must for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:52 am reply with quote
S0lo wrote:
Slap me on the face!!

*BAM*

Done.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:11 am reply with quote
O how I wish there was a Mac version
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:17 am reply with quote
paterpeter wrote:
S0lo wrote:
Slap me on the face!!

*BAM*

Done.


Ouch. Good!! I'm not dreaming.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:18 am reply with quote
Yes CM's plugins are exclusively shipped on CM DVDs. I would be happy to give a downloadable version for Diversion users, but unfortunately I'm not allowed to do that Sad I would give the plugin via private message, but it isn't a legit way too.

brick, unfortunately Mac development is still suspended Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:21 am reply with quote
Well done Dmitry,
You are working really hard Smile
I am looking forward to try that new plugin for CMusic. In my opinion GUI of Diversion is very user-friendly and it's good that the multi-effect uses it as well.
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