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262 posts since 7 Nov, 2002
 

Postby Juan Mendoza; Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:30 am

funk01 wrote:
mutools wrote:For example:

Click on an empty rack slot -> MuTools->Factory->Instruments->MuDrum->VA MuDrum



I tried it and I don't see factory in there ??? :?


Check if you have the latest build

www.mutools.com/mulab/cedar
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Postby funk01; Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:01 am

funk01 wrote:
mutools wrote:For example:

Click on an empty rack slot -> MuTools->Factory->Instruments->MuDrum->VA MuDrum



I tried it and I don't see factory in there ??? :?



I FOUND OUT THE PROBLEM. I DID NOT UPDATE THE NEWER SESSION PROPERLY.

THANKS YOU GUYS.


HEY JUAN,

I THINK THOSE TUTORIALS WOULD BE GREAT, WHEN YOU GET THE CHANCE TO DO IT.

THANKS FOR THE COOL SOUNDS.
KVRAF
 
5527 posts since 24 Jun, 2008, from Europe
    

Postby mutools; Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:17 am

Just checking: You're talking about MuLab 4, right?

If yes, then can you please post a screenshot of what you see then.
Post it here or via email, as what's easiest for you.
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Postby funk01; Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:46 am

mutools wrote:Just checking: You're talking about MuLab 4, right?

If yes, then can you please post a screenshot of what you see then.
Post it here or via email, as what's easiest for you.



Yes Mu.lab 4 and everything is there. Thanks !!!!

I already started playing around with the sounds and I like it. There's a lot of tweaking and modifying you can do which makes it really interesting.

Thanks,

funk01
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KVRAF
 
4510 posts since 28 May, 2005, from Netherlands

Postby Nielzie; Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:28 am

These VA drum modules are really good and usable additions :love:

Impressive work Juan, well done!

All works very well. Only thing I noticed was that the frequency knobs of some filters doesn't go below a certain fixed amount, so they can't be set to zero. Is that by design?
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105 posts since 24 Sep, 2004
 

Postby plutonia; Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:25 am

great drum modules; authentic synth drums with sizzle. brilliant!
KVRist
 
262 posts since 7 Nov, 2002
 

Postby Juan Mendoza; Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:40 pm

Nielzie wrote:These VA drum modules are really good and usable additions :love:

Impressive work Juan, well done!


:oops: Thanks!

Nielzie wrote:All works very well. Only thing I noticed was that the frequency knobs of some filters doesn't go below a certain fixed amount, so they can't be set to zero. Is that by design?


Indeed, its a design decision. Most parameters in the VA MuDrum editors have a limited range. The intention is that you keep producing drum sounds no matter how much you turn the knobs. I.e. a 40s decay has no sense in a drum patch, so it's limited with a metaparameter.

Same applies to the filters, BUT, if you find that a certain device or filter needs a wider range please let me know and i'll finetune it, if possible. This is the kind of feedback i need before release, so to release the devices as finetuned as possible, Thanks! ;)

You can also dive into the modular area and finetune the range of the metaparameters as you wish though.
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4526 posts since 8 Feb, 2003, from London, UK
 

Postby pljones; Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:36 am

Hi Juan!

The only thing I noticed is the Mu Cym missing velocity tracking (I think it's the Amp Env turned down to zero). Was that intentional? (I'd have also liked it a bit trashier, but that's taste, I guess.)

I'm more of an acoustic drums fan, so I can't really comment on them beyond that.
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262 posts since 7 Nov, 2002
 

Postby Juan Mendoza; Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:38 am

Hi pl,

thanks for your feedback :)
pljones wrote:Hi Juan!

The only thing I noticed is the Mu Cym missing velocity tracking (I think it's the Amp Env turned down to zero). Was that intentional?


ooops, no. Fixed in next version.


pljones wrote:(I'd have also liked it a bit trashier, but that's taste, I guess.)


In what sense? more distorted? more harmonics, inharmonics?

It follows a similar scheme to the TR 808 cymbal, only that instead of 6 osc it has 4, for CPU optimizing reasons. And is capable of producing nice bell like sonds. Not very good for realistic cymbals, nor was the real TR one, anyway if it can be improoved, i'd like to do it.
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KVRAF
 
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Postby pljones; Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:43 am

Yeah, that's what I mean - it's probably spot on for what it's meant to be emulating. I could push it through some distortion or something anyway...
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262 posts since 7 Nov, 2002
 

Postby Juan Mendoza; Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:53 am

pljones wrote:Yeah, that's what I mean - it's probably spot on for what it's meant to be emulating. I could push it through some distortion or something anyway...


I wont gonna radiacally change any device at this moment, i'm just finetuning the existing ones, i also dont want to overcomplicate the editors more, some are indeed a bit too deep for the medium level user.

Anyway, i have more devices done that are not yet included and will work on even more towards M5. "Maybe" then i find a way to emulate acoustic drums. And when FM synthesis gets into Mulab be sure we'll be able to have more realistic and methalic sounds ;)

Cheers!
KVRAF
 
5527 posts since 24 Jun, 2008, from Europe
    

Postby mutools; Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:45 am

Juan Mendoza wrote:And when FM synthesis gets into Mulab be sure we'll be able to have more realistic and methalic sounds ;)


Maybe also try with the ring modulator?
KVRist
 
262 posts since 7 Nov, 2002
 

Postby Juan Mendoza; Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:03 am

mutools wrote:
Juan Mendoza wrote:And when FM synthesis gets into Mulab be sure we'll be able to have more realistic and methalic sounds ;)


Maybe also try with the ring modulator?


Indeed, that's what i used to make the methallic hi hats :)
I could create a new Cym using RM and try, but i wouldnt like to replace the current one because i really like it.

In any case it would be an aditional one, but i think that would be better for M5.

I've mentioned FM because i've heard really impressive FM drums, some very close to real drums. I think its more possible to amulate a real cymbal and such with FM than with RM, but i may be wrong, i'm not an expert with those synthesis methods.
KVRAF
 
2464 posts since 30 May, 2006, from US / Italy

Postby liquidsound; Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:39 am

liquidsound wrote:WOW!!!! :shock: :love: :love: :love:
OK. They look like WOW but I can't find them in the 4.0.99UL version.
:help:
No Factory menu either :?
MuLab & MUX, Zebra-Bazille-ACE-Diva-Diversion-Dune2-Xils4-Aalto
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KVRAF
 
4526 posts since 8 Feb, 2003, from London, UK
 

Postby pljones; Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:11 am

1) Run MULAB 4.0.99
2) Select "New"
3) Click rack 1, slot 1
4) Select MuTools->Instruments->MuDrum->VA MuDrum->VA MuDrum
(the last VA MuDrum gets you the full kit in one go)
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